Jamie Laing

And what you were doing is you were trying to mimic someone else because you thought that would make you cool.

And that's the problem with social media as well.

What we do is that we wake up and we see all these people and go, well, they're doing that, don't they?

So I'm going to copy.

Yeah.

Or I'm going to not quite copy, get close to because that will, no.

Doesn't work.

You know, I spoke to a guy on the podcast, a guy, he's called Robert, but to his friends, he's Bob.

Wait, Waldinger?

Yes.

Oh, I love the guy.

God.

Yeah, he's great.

And what he says is that if you ask people who are much later in their life, maybe towards like the end of their lives, what they say is they don't talk about what success they have.

They don't talk about what they achieved, the BAFTAs they won, the cars they drove.

They talk about the relationships they had.

And we're fooling ourselves a little bit in life.

Of course we are.

Thinking these things are the haircut, the job, the books that we make, the podcasts that we do.

That is going to make us fulfilled later in life.