Jamie Loftus

One vote.

Yeah, it kind of is.

It's it's total bullshit because stuff it's the thing everybody agrees with on paper, but nobody will actually fight the tax prep companies, which is like, hey, the IRS like knows more or less what I make and like knows more or less what I owe.

Why don't I just get a thing from them?

Why do I have to go through this?

Like, anyway, there's no need.

Other countries do it that way.

We don't, though.

Well, and more to the point, because I don't actually think the IRS is advocating to keep it a pain in the ass.

I think it's these tax prep companies because they have an entire industry based on charging people to do the thing that they have to do to avoid going to fucking prison.

Anyway, I said he's an asshole, and I'm sure he is, but he was right about this.

I don't know what to say about that.

Like all of us, Joseph is also a podcaster.

He is the host of the co-host of the Stanford Legal podcast.

If it wasn't the holiday season and I wasn't like getting ready for friends and family and all that, that good stuff, I would have listened to his podcast and we would probably be making fun of him.

But you can do that on your own.

Oh, my goodness.

Yeah, it's like, I don't know.

Like, you know, you know, the only you know, the only thing that I can compare it to is like when I started making a living as a writer 15 years ago.

And I would say that like at like a party or something.