Jamie Loftus

I think it's these tax prep companies because they have an entire industry based on charging people to do the thing that they have to do to avoid going to fucking prison.

Anyway, I said he's an asshole, and I'm sure he is, but he was right about this.

I don't know what to say about that.

Like all of us, Joseph is also a podcaster.

He is the host of the co-host of the Stanford Legal podcast.

If it wasn't the holiday season and I wasn't like getting ready for friends and family and all that, that good stuff, I would have listened to his podcast and we would probably be making fun of him.

But you can do that on your own.

Oh, my goodness.

Yeah, it's like, I don't know.

Like, you know, you know, the only you know, the only thing that I can compare it to is like when I started making a living as a writer 15 years ago.

And I would say that like at like a party or something.

Someone asked, like, well, what do you do?

And I'm like, well, I'm a writer.

And like four other people would say.

Yeah, me too.

And then you wind up listening to everybody's pitches for their novels that they're never going to finish.

And so eventually I just started lying and saying that I still worked at special ed.

Oh God, no, never, never identify as a comedian in a party.

You know how Lenny Bruce read that list of curse words?

Well, I just do that with slurs.