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Jamie Loftus

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Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

So, yeah.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

So yeah, now you'll, yeah, anyway.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

So Sam, we don't actually know if he's completely bankrupt.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

We know he took about a billion in payments and loans from FTX.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

He claims not to really have any of that money and that he's working on getting what assets he does have to try to make a few more of the investors that they had whole.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

That said, we know that a big chunk of the money that he made was funneled into real estate in his parents' names.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Um, so that's fun.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Speaking of his parents, one of the big early mysteries of his case was that when he gets out on $250 million bond, uh, his parents are signed onto the bail agreement with their house, uh, as collateral, but there were also two mystery co-signers and their house.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

We'll be talking about this in a second is on the Stanford campus.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

The two mystery co-signers were Larry Kramer, a family friend and the former Dean of Stanford, uh,

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

And Andreas Popke, who signed a $200,000 bond.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Popke is a senior research scientist at Stanford and an advisor to several Valley startups.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

So Stanford is very invested, primarily because of who Sam's parents are in this case, which is interesting to me.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

I think it's actually just that these people are close with his parents who are professors at Stanford and deeply tied into that community.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

This has to just be like some sort of crazy mistake because they can't imagine he just it's so dumb and blatant.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Like all he did was rob people in order to like gamble.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Right.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Like fundamentally, there's not a difference between like him taking people's money, claiming that he's like got a sure stock tip and then gambling it in Vegas.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Like legally, there's no difference between that and what he did.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

But they can't because his parents are like ethicists, basically, at Stanford.