Jamie Metzl

ethical terms for how its little piece of this bigger puzzle works.

Because we don't have standards.

And part of that is because this is relatively new.

And it's interesting.

I mean, maybe you should have this guy, Emile Michael, on the show.

But Emile, he's the undersecretary in the, I'll say, the Department of War.

And he's the guy who's responsible for this.

And when I first heard his name actually somewhere else-

I thought, this name sounds so familiar.

Why is this name so familiar?

And then I got triggered.

I remember, I can't remember the name, but there was a TV series about Uber.

It was this actually very entertaining show, but there was the number two at Uber, who was this kind of crazy cowboy guy and who was at the center of the whole thing collapsing.

And it turned out that's the same guy.

That guy who was the number of two under Travis was

at Uber in the kind of crazy out of control days at Uber.

He's now the person in charge and like me, a former White House fellow.

And he is a very smart guy.

And I understand the instinct of saying we're not going to let individual suppliers control what we're doing.

And I totally support what he's saying is we can't have one supplier for any critical mission because we have to have that kind of freedom.