Jamie Mustard

And there, all the celebrities and successful people, most successful people in Scientology are coming from around the world.

Tom Cruise has a condo there.

I'm meeting famous artists, Gottfried Heldwein.

I meet Chick Corea, his manager, college professors, physicists, lawyers, academics, like from all over the world.

And for sure, and I'm 18 years old.

And for sure, Jordan,

I was starting to feel like a slave.

I was starting to have concepts.

I didn't even know what a slave was because I'd never been educated and I couldn't write.

I could read at a decent level just from studying the doctrine.

But I started to have this concept of being controlled.

And then every time I would meet some famous person, I met John Travolta when I was 18 or 19 for the first time.

And he was nice.

And you'd meet these really rich and successful people in every kind, like, again, academics, lawyers, doctors.

And you'd say, Friedhelm Wein, even Neil Gaiman's father, Neil wasn't Neil Gaiman yet.

I met him when I was 19.

He was this incredibly impressive guy.

People don't know this.

Neil Gaiman's father not only was confidant of Hubbard,

international spokesperson for Scientology, but ran Scientology secret police for a period of time.