Jamie Mustard

Tony Ortega talks about this, and I think he has it right.

Up until two years ago, when I decided to write this thing, I've been living a double life, disconnected from myself, literally.

And so I've been thinking a lot about that the last few months as the books come out and I get all these notes.

But Tony has said this, and I think he's right about this.

This guy that writes a lot about Scientology, he's got a blog.

It's all about you.

You do this stuff called this machine counseling.

Freud used it.

Freud called it abreaction therapy.

It's similar to EMDR, which is evidence-backed, where you relive all the painful moments of your life to take away the emotional distress it's causing you.

So there's something to that, and you do it with this machine, but how the machine works, they're lying to you in terms of what it does.

Once you believe in the machine, they own you, okay?

But I think that it's all focused on you.

The courses are all you.

There's a very narcissistic, it's a you-based...

group.

It is not a community group.

You're getting rid of all of your past pain.

The goal here with the Scientology ladder to do all the Scientology levels.

Okay.