Jamie Wall

If you're watching the NRL, no criticism of the NRL.

Because what I want to get at is that when you're looking at the football, for example, and a lot of people say Auckland FC's taken over Auckland.

Auckland FC's crowds were down this year.

They had 8,000 at one of those playoff games, right?

They sold out the final, of course, because it's a final and an event.

Of course.

Is it more that we've changed as a country and the generations now that if you can sell the event, and I'm talking about the football firms played a World Cup women's soccer game at Eden Park, and it was almost sold out, and the crowd was raucous.

Women's World Cup rugby sold out.

It's a one-off, though.

So this is it.

It doesn't patch way.

But we can sell out Auckland FC.

The Phoenix crowds are the lowest they've ever been.

And they sell out when they go on the road as well because it's very rare they go to Christchurch or Wellington.

I understand that.

Is it because just at the moment that the Breakers crowds have been brilliant and then they go down?

If it's an actual event, if it's something that people will...

Add to it because it's not just a game of sport.

Is that what we've turned into here?

They all left before the NPC game started.