Jan Arden

But, you know, she's I think it's really important and very fortuitous for both of us because of the nature of our jobs and the nature of our ages and personalities that, you know, it's just nice to be able to get stuff done.

I mean, sometimes she has 12 hour days.

She said, I'd feel so bad if, you know, you were sitting at my house and I've got shit to do or I've got to fly to Belgium for three days.

I think we just make the best of it.

Relationships do not look like they did in the 50s and the 60s and even the 70s.

They're not as what you'd call traditional.

I think people are reevaluating and reassessing what...

a relationship looks like and what happiness looks like and joy looks like.

And Kate Bowler could certainly speak to this.

I mean, what is it?

I mean, you do not live with your partner.

I mean, you guys might at some point, but, you know, you're running an empire.

He's working a lot.

His kids are going back and forth.

And you just make it work.

You just, you adapt and you make it work.

And I'm never...

I'm always cheering her on.

I'm never like, well, you said you were going to call me at six.

And we are so fucking past that ridiculous behavior.