Jane Goodall

Well, I think I was kind of lucky because it wasn't a male-dominated field because nobody really was going out at that time. Now, of course, everybody is studying. Back then, there were two primate studies that and a giraffe study. Most studies were in captivity. And so everybody, you know, it wasn't like it is today. And I was really lucky. I had the whole feel.

Well, I think I was kind of lucky because it wasn't a male-dominated field because nobody really was going out at that time. Now, of course, everybody is studying. Back then, there were two primate studies that and a giraffe study. Most studies were in captivity. And so everybody, you know, it wasn't like it is today. And I was really lucky. I had the whole feel.

I mean, nobody had studied chimps in the wild.

I mean, nobody had studied chimps in the wild.

No, I wasn't scared. It was my dream, remember. And there were two problems. First, money, always money. Because, I mean, as you say, I wasn't trained, hadn't been to college, but finally got money for six months from an American philanthropist. And second, it was Tanganyika back then, Tanzania today. And the British authorities said, we won't take responsibility. Is this a stupid idea?

No, I wasn't scared. It was my dream, remember. And there were two problems. First, money, always money. Because, I mean, as you say, I wasn't trained, hadn't been to college, but finally got money for six months from an American philanthropist. And second, it was Tanganyika back then, Tanzania today. And the British authorities said, we won't take responsibility. Is this a stupid idea?

Young girl going in the forest. In the end, they said, oh, all right, but she can't come alone. That was when my amazing mother volunteered to come. That's incredible. And we, you know, our expedition was a shoestring. We had one old secondhand tent between us. We had to take a cook and we had scant supplies. But I was, you know, up in the hills every day. You were 26 years old.

Young girl going in the forest. In the end, they said, oh, all right, but she can't come alone. That was when my amazing mother volunteered to come. That's incredible. And we, you know, our expedition was a shoestring. We had one old secondhand tent between us. We had to take a cook and we had scant supplies. But I was, you know, up in the hills every day. You were 26 years old.

Well, I can only think of the advice my mother gave me. You know, if you want to do something, work hard and take advantage of opportunity. The key thing is you've got to know you really want to do it. So today, you know, people take gap years. And that's really good because you can find out, is this really what I want to spend my life doing?

Well, I can only think of the advice my mother gave me. You know, if you want to do something, work hard and take advantage of opportunity. The key thing is you've got to know you really want to do it. So today, you know, people take gap years. And that's really good because you can find out, is this really what I want to spend my life doing?

And also I meet young people and they're perhaps in their second year at university. And they say, well, you know, I actually made a mistake, but I can't change now. Well, that's the biggest mistake. Because if this is going to be the rest of your life, change now while you can into a different, you know, different career path.

And also I meet young people and they're perhaps in their second year at university. And they say, well, you know, I actually made a mistake, but I can't change now. Well, that's the biggest mistake. Because if this is going to be the rest of your life, change now while you can into a different, you know, different career path.

And, you know, there's another thing that some women really want to be homemakers. And yet it's getting so that they're despised. You want to stay at home and you want to cook and you want to look after your children instead of being out there having a career and... you know, standing up shoulder to shoulder with your male counterparts, well, that's wrong too.

And, you know, there's another thing that some women really want to be homemakers. And yet it's getting so that they're despised. You want to stay at home and you want to cook and you want to look after your children instead of being out there having a career and... you know, standing up shoulder to shoulder with your male counterparts, well, that's wrong too.

Well, you know, this is, I'm in the middle of an American spring tour, and it's pretty exhausting, to be honest. Yesterday was super exhausting.

Well, you know, this is, I'm in the middle of an American spring tour, and it's pretty exhausting, to be honest. Yesterday was super exhausting.

Because if that makes you really happy, then your children will be happy, your husband, if you have one, or your boyfriend or whoever probably will be happy. And happiness is so important. It's the king of Bhutan who made this happiness index.

Because if that makes you really happy, then your children will be happy, your husband, if you have one, or your boyfriend or whoever probably will be happy. And happiness is so important. It's the king of Bhutan who made this happiness index.

And it's fascinating to see, you know, that getting more and more money and more and more fame and more and more, you know, doesn't necessarily make people happy.

And it's fascinating to see, you know, that getting more and more money and more and more fame and more and more, you know, doesn't necessarily make people happy.

Yeah. And, you know, if we go back to the child, if the most important thing for the child is to be supported by two, three, four people who are consistently there, it doesn't have to be the biological mother. So... I met the chief of a Latin American indigenous tribe, and he said to me, he said, Jane, we see our tribe as like an eagle.

Yeah. And, you know, if we go back to the child, if the most important thing for the child is to be supported by two, three, four people who are consistently there, it doesn't have to be the biological mother. So... I met the chief of a Latin American indigenous tribe, and he said to me, he said, Jane, we see our tribe as like an eagle.

One wing is male, the other wing is female, and only when they're equal will the tribe fly high.

One wing is male, the other wing is female, and only when they're equal will the tribe fly high.

No, they don't. And you know, thing is, there are female characteristics and male characters. We all have both. But basically, we need both. We need the sort of more dominating male characteristics to stand up to things in life that might knock us down. But we need the more nurturing role of the woman.

No, they don't. And you know, thing is, there are female characteristics and male characters. We all have both. But basically, we need both. We need the sort of more dominating male characteristics to stand up to things in life that might knock us down. But we need the more nurturing role of the woman.

Well, what I'm doing is trying to help people understand that we're going through very dark times. And if we don't get together and start doing what each of us can to make the world a better place, you know, the future is very uncertain.

Well, what I'm doing is trying to help people understand that we're going through very dark times. And if we don't get together and start doing what each of us can to make the world a better place, you know, the future is very uncertain.

But, you know, it's so sad. I've lived long enough to see this pendulum swing moving towards change. oh, we need more males, we need more in this society, we need to have a masculine society to deal with what we're going through. That's not right.

But, you know, it's so sad. I've lived long enough to see this pendulum swing moving towards change. oh, we need more males, we need more in this society, we need to have a masculine society to deal with what we're going through. That's not right.

No, I've never felt lonely. And some of the happiest days of my life, I did eventually get a degree in Cambridge. And then I went back to Gombe, you know, the chimp study. Yeah. And I could spend hours and hours alone in the rainforest learning, yes, more about the chimpanzees, but also about this complex ecosystem where every plant and animal has a role to play and they're all interdependent.

No, I've never felt lonely. And some of the happiest days of my life, I did eventually get a degree in Cambridge. And then I went back to Gombe, you know, the chimp study. Yeah. And I could spend hours and hours alone in the rainforest learning, yes, more about the chimpanzees, but also about this complex ecosystem where every plant and animal has a role to play and they're all interdependent.

And what I discovered was that if you're out in a beautiful place, with someone, someone you love or, you know, your family or something, then it's human beings in a beautiful environment. But when I was alone, there was, I wasn't, it was just, I was part of that world, not separated from it by being a human in that world.

And what I discovered was that if you're out in a beautiful place, with someone, someone you love or, you know, your family or something, then it's human beings in a beautiful environment. But when I was alone, there was, I wasn't, it was just, I was part of that world, not separated from it by being a human in that world.

It's hard to explain and it didn't happen that often, but when it did, it was a very basically spiritual experience.

It's hard to explain and it didn't happen that often, but when it did, it was a very basically spiritual experience.

I mean, are you alone if you're always on Facebook or Instagram or video games? Are you really alone?

I mean, are you alone if you're always on Facebook or Instagram or video games? Are you really alone?

Not really.

Not really.

It is my birthday tomorrow. It's another way of, you know, what do I have to do? What's the hardest thing I have to do is raise money for all the different projects. You know, and people think, oh, Jane must be wealthy. She gives these lectures. She gets lots of money. Yes, but the money goes to our projects.

It is my birthday tomorrow. It's another way of, you know, what do I have to do? What's the hardest thing I have to do is raise money for all the different projects. You know, and people think, oh, Jane must be wealthy. She gives these lectures. She gets lots of money. Yes, but the money goes to our projects.

Well, it was, you know, for the first four of my six months money, the chimps ran away. I mean, they just vanished into the forest. And I just had to learn from a distance with binoculars. And then one chimpanzee began to lose his fear and let me get a bit closer. And he had beautiful white hair on his chin. I called him David Greybeard.

Well, it was, you know, for the first four of my six months money, the chimps ran away. I mean, they just vanished into the forest. And I just had to learn from a distance with binoculars. And then one chimpanzee began to lose his fear and let me get a bit closer. And he had beautiful white hair on his chin. I called him David Greybeard.

And on this day, I was walking through the forest and I saw him sitting on a termite mound. So he was pulling out this with termites hanging on and eating them. And sometimes he was picking leafy twigs, then he had to strip the leaves to make a tool. And the reason this was so exciting is that at that time, it was thought by Western science that only humans used and made tools.

And on this day, I was walking through the forest and I saw him sitting on a termite mound. So he was pulling out this with termites hanging on and eating them. And sometimes he was picking leafy twigs, then he had to strip the leaves to make a tool. And the reason this was so exciting is that at that time, it was thought by Western science that only humans used and made tools.

We were defined as man, of course, man, the toolmaker. And so when I wrote to my mentor, Louis Leakey, he was just so excited. And so as we're defined as man, the tool maker, he said, we must redefine tool, redefine man, or accept chimpanzees as humans. And that was when the National Geographic stepped in and said, well, Jane's money runs out. We'll continue to support her.

We were defined as man, of course, man, the toolmaker. And so when I wrote to my mentor, Louis Leakey, he was just so excited. And so as we're defined as man, the tool maker, he said, we must redefine tool, redefine man, or accept chimpanzees as humans. And that was when the National Geographic stepped in and said, well, Jane's money runs out. We'll continue to support her.

And so then I could relax. And really, I got to know those chimpanzees almost like members of my family.

And so then I could relax. And really, I got to know those chimpanzees almost like members of my family.

Well, I've been intimidated, don't worry. The first time I had to give a lecture, I thought I would die. And for the first, I don't know, it seemed forever, I couldn't even breathe, but nobody noticed. And so, basically, because I was so terrified of speaking in public, I practiced, and I made a vow. I will never read a speech, and I won't say, Amen, Err.

Well, I've been intimidated, don't worry. The first time I had to give a lecture, I thought I would die. And for the first, I don't know, it seemed forever, I couldn't even breathe, but nobody noticed. And so, basically, because I was so terrified of speaking in public, I practiced, and I made a vow. I will never read a speech, and I won't say, Amen, Err.

And if you listen, you find I'm in the odd arm, but basically I don't. And so my advice to people is, you know, be sure of what you're going to say. And if necessary, practice. Like before every lecture, even if I've given the same one The previous week, I always write down the point. So it's my mind is totally focused.

And if you listen, you find I'm in the odd arm, but basically I don't. And so my advice to people is, you know, be sure of what you're going to say. And if necessary, practice. Like before every lecture, even if I've given the same one The previous week, I always write down the point. So it's my mind is totally focused.

And always remember, you've given this speech before, but now you're talking to people who haven't heard it. So you've got to put the same enthusiasm.

And always remember, you've given this speech before, but now you're talking to people who haven't heard it. So you've got to put the same enthusiasm.

Well, I don't really know that first time. I did it because I had to do it. Geographic, it was for the National Geographic. It was to 5,000 people in Constitutional. Okay, Jane. Yes. Whoa. And if I didn't, you know, the Geographic were paying for my field research. I had some students by then, and I had to do it. So... You do what you have to do, right? So I knew I had to do it. I practiced.

Well, I don't really know that first time. I did it because I had to do it. Geographic, it was for the National Geographic. It was to 5,000 people in Constitutional. Okay, Jane. Yes. Whoa. And if I didn't, you know, the Geographic were paying for my field research. I had some students by then, and I had to do it. So... You do what you have to do, right? So I knew I had to do it. I practiced.

People like to celebrate my birthday the whole year. So I get all these birthdays and all these birthday cakes.

People like to celebrate my birthday the whole year. So I get all these birthdays and all these birthday cakes.

And I just felt I can't let Leakey down. I can't let the geographic down. So you just grit your teeth. It's a bit like going to the dentist. You don't really look forward to it, but you have to do it. And say to yourself, you know, I'll be really brave and it will be over. Yeah.

And I just felt I can't let Leakey down. I can't let the geographic down. So you just grit your teeth. It's a bit like going to the dentist. You don't really look forward to it, but you have to do it. And say to yourself, you know, I'll be really brave and it will be over. Yeah.

Well, some of the jealous male scientists will say, well, you know, she's just got this notoriety and she's getting money from Geographic and they want her on the cover and they wouldn't put her on the cover if she didn't have nice legs. So if somebody said that today, they'd be sued, right? Back then, all I wanted was to get back to the chimps.

Well, some of the jealous male scientists will say, well, you know, she's just got this notoriety and she's getting money from Geographic and they want her on the cover and they wouldn't put her on the cover if she didn't have nice legs. So if somebody said that today, they'd be sued, right? Back then, all I wanted was to get back to the chimps.

So if my legs were getting me the money, thank you, legs. And if you look at those covers, they were jolly nice legs.

So if my legs were getting me the money, thank you, legs. And if you look at those covers, they were jolly nice legs.

Well, I don't know. I did it by accepting that in a way they were right. So thank you. Thank you for giving me this advantage. That's good to give me the money. But you know, okay. I know that for me, it was a long time ago. It was a different era. It wouldn't work today. So all I can think of is, I don't know. I mean, you'd be better to give advice. What advice would you give?

Well, I don't know. I did it by accepting that in a way they were right. So thank you. Thank you for giving me this advantage. That's good to give me the money. But you know, okay. I know that for me, it was a long time ago. It was a different era. It wouldn't work today. So all I can think of is, I don't know. I mean, you'd be better to give advice. What advice would you give?

Yes. Well, you know, my mother. She died when she was 98, and she was sharp to the end, although she had Parkinson's. But she couldn't, she just didn't drink water. She said it didn't agree with her. I don't like much water either. She couldn't drink wine, so her tipple was whiskey. So we made a thing that 7 o'clock, Wherever I was, I would raise a toast to her.

Yes. Well, you know, my mother. She died when she was 98, and she was sharp to the end, although she had Parkinson's. But she couldn't, she just didn't drink water. She said it didn't agree with her. I don't like much water either. She couldn't drink wine, so her tipple was whiskey. So we made a thing that 7 o'clock, Wherever I was, I would raise a toast to her.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're like, give me a hug. Yeah. Mind you, women want to hug me too. That's fine. Anybody can hug me. I need hugs. Okay. I'll give you a hug after this.

You're like, give me a hug. Yeah. Mind you, women want to hug me too. That's fine. Anybody can hug me. I need hugs. Okay. I'll give you a hug after this.

Well, after I was finding out exciting things about the chimps and they were getting habituated to humans, the geographic, obviously, you know, they live on it. They wanted to make a film and they wanted good photographs. So they sent Hugo van Leeuwenhoek. And I really didn't want him to come. I hadn't met him because I just wanted to be there with the chimps. You know, I didn't want anybody.

Well, after I was finding out exciting things about the chimps and they were getting habituated to humans, the geographic, obviously, you know, they live on it. They wanted to make a film and they wanted good photographs. So they sent Hugo van Leeuwenhoek. And I really didn't want him to come. I hadn't met him because I just wanted to be there with the chimps. You know, I didn't want anybody.

And I was afraid they'd be scared of him. And, you know, all my hard work would be undone. But as it was, he came. He loved animals. He'd always wanted to be out there with them. His route was photography. And we got on fine. And he, you know, it was thanks to his photos and film that everything I was saying about the chimps was corroborated. And so he really, really helped.

And I was afraid they'd be scared of him. And, you know, all my hard work would be undone. But as it was, he came. He loved animals. He'd always wanted to be out there with them. His route was photography. And we got on fine. And he, you know, it was thanks to his photos and film that everything I was saying about the chimps was corroborated. And so he really, really helped.

to share the knowledge that chimpanzees really are like us. They really do have gestures and postures the same as ours that mean the same thing.

to share the knowledge that chimpanzees really are like us. They really do have gestures and postures the same as ours that mean the same thing.

Well, it ended gradually, and it ended because the Geographic stopped paying Hugo to come to Gombe. He had to go on with his career, and he got some money to do films on the Serengeti. And I couldn't leave Gombe. I had to stay. I mean, I was totally, you know, I couldn't leave Gombe. And so it slowly drifted apart. And it was sad. And I think we did the right thing. But we kind of had to do it.

Well, it ended gradually, and it ended because the Geographic stopped paying Hugo to come to Gombe. He had to go on with his career, and he got some money to do films on the Serengeti. And I couldn't leave Gombe. I had to stay. I mean, I was totally, you know, I couldn't leave Gombe. And so it slowly drifted apart. And it was sad. And I think we did the right thing. But we kind of had to do it.

You know, I definitely wish we could have carried on with that marriage because it was a good one.

You know, I definitely wish we could have carried on with that marriage because it was a good one.

I don't think there's a favorite part of aging, quite honestly. But I suppose, okay, if you look at it philosophically, the longer you live, the more you learn. And I don't like a day that I don't learn something, even a little thing. And the other thing is, you know, when you get older, you learn, well, I do.

I don't think there's a favorite part of aging, quite honestly. But I suppose, okay, if you look at it philosophically, the longer you live, the more you learn. And I don't like a day that I don't learn something, even a little thing. And the other thing is, you know, when you get older, you learn, well, I do.

You learn more about what's going on in the rest of the world and how to interact with people and basically be nice if you didn't get old.

You learn more about what's going on in the rest of the world and how to interact with people and basically be nice if you didn't get old.

Yes, I do. That's my job now. It's my actual job. So I have my reasons for hope. Number one, I mentioned, it's the young people. So this Roots & Shoots program began in 1991 with 12 high school students in Tanzania. It's now got members from kindergarten, very strong in university, everything in between. More and more young adults are forming groups. We even get groups in old people's homes.

Yes, I do. That's my job now. It's my actual job. So I have my reasons for hope. Number one, I mentioned, it's the young people. So this Roots & Shoots program began in 1991 with 12 high school students in Tanzania. It's now got members from kindergarten, very strong in university, everything in between. More and more young adults are forming groups. We even get groups in old people's homes.

So it's broadened out and it's different from other programs because... Because of learning, everything's interrelated. Every group chooses, well, the little ones can't choose, but once you get to middle school, they choose a project to help people, a project to help animals, a project to help the environment, and they share this with each other.

So it's broadened out and it's different from other programs because... Because of learning, everything's interrelated. Every group chooses, well, the little ones can't choose, but once you get to middle school, they choose a project to help people, a project to help animals, a project to help the environment, and they share this with each other.

And once they roll up their sleeves, they work very hard because they chose the project. And they're making a difference. They're planting trees, they're picking up trash, they're raising money to help refugees, they're volunteering in soup kitchens or animal shelters. And the main message of Roots & Shoots, which is for everybody,

And once they roll up their sleeves, they work very hard because they chose the project. And they're making a difference. They're planting trees, they're picking up trash, they're raising money to help refugees, they're volunteering in soup kitchens or animal shelters. And the main message of Roots & Shoots, which is for everybody,

Every day you live, you make an impact on the planet and you have to choose what sort of impact you make. So all around the world now in 75 countries, young people are changing the world. And once they know the problems, and that's important, but then you empower them to take action in ways that they choose.

Every day you live, you make an impact on the planet and you have to choose what sort of impact you make. So all around the world now in 75 countries, young people are changing the world. And once they know the problems, and that's important, but then you empower them to take action in ways that they choose.

Not the very expensive malty ones. I hope you didn't get a very expensive.

Not the very expensive malty ones. I hope you didn't get a very expensive.

They just, they're just, I mean, I go around visiting them and they're so full of enthusiasm and You know, so yes, we've got to create a world where their hope is viable. Next reason for hope is this extraordinary intellect that we have. And note, I don't call it intelligence because if we were intelligent, we would not be destroying our home, our only home.

They just, they're just, I mean, I go around visiting them and they're so full of enthusiasm and You know, so yes, we've got to create a world where their hope is viable. Next reason for hope is this extraordinary intellect that we have. And note, I don't call it intelligence because if we were intelligent, we would not be destroying our home, our only home.

And sadly, we haven't always used our intellect wisely. We've forgotten the indigenous wisdom of saying, how does this decision affect generations in the future? How does it affect me now, my family now, my next political campaign, the next shareholder meeting? We've gone into a materialistic, very often greedy society, and we need to change.

And sadly, we haven't always used our intellect wisely. We've forgotten the indigenous wisdom of saying, how does this decision affect generations in the future? How does it affect me now, my family now, my next political campaign, the next shareholder meeting? We've gone into a materialistic, very often greedy society, and we need to change.

But this intellect is beginning to tell us what we need to do, how to do it, creating alternative energy, for example.

But this intellect is beginning to tell us what we need to do, how to do it, creating alternative energy, for example.

That again was celebrated the whole year. The only thing I really, really liked was when I was greeted on the beach by 90 dogs. 90 dogs. 90 dogs.

That again was celebrated the whole year. The only thing I really, really liked was when I was greeted on the beach by 90 dogs. 90 dogs. 90 dogs.

I've had a great time talking to you and meeting Henry. Let's make Henry come and say goodbye. Where is he? Henry, Henry, Henry. There he is.

I've had a great time talking to you and meeting Henry. Let's make Henry come and say goodbye. Where is he? Henry, Henry, Henry. There he is.

90 dogs. And it was in Carmel. Carmel on the sea. It was an off leash part of the beach. And everybody brought their dogs. And so I was throwing sticks in the sea and then it began to rain and then it stopped raining. It was just amazing. It was wonderful.

90 dogs. And it was in Carmel. Carmel on the sea. It was an off leash part of the beach. And everybody brought their dogs. And so I was throwing sticks in the sea and then it began to rain and then it stopped raining. It was just amazing. It was wonderful.

And we've got a great photo of all the owners with their dogs and me sitting in front with the sea behind us. It's a great photo. I

And we've got a great photo of all the owners with their dogs and me sitting in front with the sea behind us. It's a great photo. I

Well, I do it because I have to. It probably sounds strange to you, but by now being 90, I feel that I was put on this planet with a mission. And right now, as I said, we're going through dark times. And the big problem is people are losing hope. Many people come up to me and say, well, I look around at all that's going wrong in the world and I just feel helpless.

Well, I do it because I have to. It probably sounds strange to you, but by now being 90, I feel that I was put on this planet with a mission. And right now, as I said, we're going through dark times. And the big problem is people are losing hope. Many people come up to me and say, well, I look around at all that's going wrong in the world and I just feel helpless.

And so I say, well, you can't solve the problems of the world, but what about where you live, your community? Is there something there? You feel you don't like litter on the pavement or you don't like they're planning to dig up a little forest to put yet another super mall. Go and do something about it.

And so I say, well, you can't solve the problems of the world, but what about where you live, your community? Is there something there? You feel you don't like litter on the pavement or you don't like they're planning to dig up a little forest to put yet another super mall. Go and do something about it.

Well, the thing is, you know, this mission keeps me going because there's so much to do. And if we lose hope, we're doomed. Because if you lose hope, you become apathetic and do nothing. But I'm not alone. The Jane Goodall Institute is now in 25 countries, different chapters. And in addition, there's our program for young people, Roots & Shoots, which is humanitarian and environmental.

Well, the thing is, you know, this mission keeps me going because there's so much to do. And if we lose hope, we're doomed. Because if you lose hope, you become apathetic and do nothing. But I'm not alone. The Jane Goodall Institute is now in 25 countries, different chapters. And in addition, there's our program for young people, Roots & Shoots, which is humanitarian and environmental.

And that's in 75 countries.

And that's in 75 countries.

I mean, first of all, I can't retire as long as I can, you know. And if I become physically disabled, if my brain works, I want to do more writing because I love writing.

I mean, first of all, I can't retire as long as I can, you know. And if I become physically disabled, if my brain works, I want to do more writing because I love writing.

Then I can put him away. Mr. H was given to me 34 years ago. by a man who thought he was giving me a stuffed chimpanzee. His name is Gary Horn. He was blinded in the US Marines when he was 21. Anyway, he thought he was giving me a stuffed chimp, and I made him hold the tail. I said, Gary, chimps don't have tails. He said, never mind, take him with you, and you know my spirit's with you.

Then I can put him away. Mr. H was given to me 34 years ago. by a man who thought he was giving me a stuffed chimpanzee. His name is Gary Horn. He was blinded in the US Marines when he was 21. Anyway, he thought he was giving me a stuffed chimp, and I made him hold the tail. I said, Gary, chimps don't have tails. He said, never mind, take him with you, and you know my spirit's with you.

So he's been with me to 64 countries, and he's extremely famous. And if you touch him, I say, if you stroke him, the inspiration rubs off. So you asked how I got into it. Well, I was born loving animals. And the most important thing in my young childhood is my mother, because she supported me. So when I was one and a half years old, I don't remember this, but she told me.

So he's been with me to 64 countries, and he's extremely famous. And if you touch him, I say, if you stroke him, the inspiration rubs off. So you asked how I got into it. Well, I was born loving animals. And the most important thing in my young childhood is my mother, because she supported me. So when I was one and a half years old, I don't remember this, but she told me.

She came into my room and found I'd taken... a whole handful of wriggly earthworms to bed. And instead of getting angry like most mothers, because, you know, she just said, she told me later, Jane, you are looking so intently. I think maybe you were wondering how they walk without legs. So we took them back into the earth.

She came into my room and found I'd taken... a whole handful of wriggly earthworms to bed. And instead of getting angry like most mothers, because, you know, she just said, she told me later, Jane, you are looking so intently. I think maybe you were wondering how they walk without legs. So we took them back into the earth.

Anyway, the point of that is that was the making of a little scientist, asking questions, not getting the answer, deciding to find out for yourself, making a mistake, not giving up, and learning patience. And a different mother might have crushed that early curiosity. And I might not be talking to you now.

Anyway, the point of that is that was the making of a little scientist, asking questions, not getting the answer, deciding to find out for yourself, making a mistake, not giving up, and learning patience. And a different mother might have crushed that early curiosity. And I might not be talking to you now.

Well, you have to remember to start with, I grew up in the war. Started when I was five. And, you know, we didn't have much money. My father went off to join the army. And we went to live with my grandmother. It was a house of women. And me and my sister, my mother, and her two sisters, and my grandmother.

Well, you have to remember to start with, I grew up in the war. Started when I was five. And, you know, we didn't have much money. My father went off to join the army. And we went to live with my grandmother. It was a house of women. And me and my sister, my mother, and her two sisters, and my grandmother.

And because there was no television back then, hadn't been invented, which you probably find it hard to imagine,

And because there was no television back then, hadn't been invented, which you probably find it hard to imagine,

But anyway, you know, so I learned from being outside with nature, watching the squirrels and the birds garden in England and from books. I love books. And do you know Dr. Doolittle?

But anyway, you know, so I learned from being outside with nature, watching the squirrels and the birds garden in England and from books. I love books. And do you know Dr. Doolittle?

Well, I found the book of Dr. Doolittle when I was eight, came from the library. And then I used to save up just a few pennies of pocket money. My sister bought sweets with them. I saved them and I found a little secondhand bookshop. And I was 10 years old and I found this tiny cheap edition of Tarzan of the Apes, which Well, you know, no TV Tarzan, no film, just the book.

Well, I found the book of Dr. Doolittle when I was eight, came from the library. And then I used to save up just a few pennies of pocket money. My sister bought sweets with them. I saved them and I found a little secondhand bookshop. And I was 10 years old and I found this tiny cheap edition of Tarzan of the Apes, which Well, you know, no TV Tarzan, no film, just the book.

So I fell in love with this glorious lord of the jungle. And what did Tarzan do? He married the wrong Jane. So anyway, I knew there wasn't a toss. And that's when my dream began. I will grow up, go to Africa, live with wild animals and write books. No thought of being a scientist. No thought of, you know. And everybody said, that's ridiculous. I mean, you don't have money. Africa's far away.

So I fell in love with this glorious lord of the jungle. And what did Tarzan do? He married the wrong Jane. So anyway, I knew there wasn't a toss. And that's when my dream began. I will grow up, go to Africa, live with wild animals and write books. No thought of being a scientist. No thought of, you know. And everybody said, that's ridiculous. I mean, you don't have money. Africa's far away.

And you're just a girl. Not my mom. She said, if you really want to do something like this, you're going to have to work really hard. Take advantage of every opportunity. And if you don't give up, hopefully you'll find a way. And that's the message I take around the world, particularly in disadvantaged communities. And I wish mom was alive. And maybe she's listening.

And you're just a girl. Not my mom. She said, if you really want to do something like this, you're going to have to work really hard. Take advantage of every opportunity. And if you don't give up, hopefully you'll find a way. And that's the message I take around the world, particularly in disadvantaged communities. And I wish mom was alive. And maybe she's listening.

The number of people who said, Jane, I want to thank you. You've taught me because you did it. I can do it too.

The number of people who said, Jane, I want to thank you. You've taught me because you did it. I can do it too.

Well, unfortunately, you know, she had two sisters and a brother. She was the third. So the brother went on to be a surgeon, a brilliant surgeon. And her older sister was the first person to be qualified, the first girl to be qualified as a physiotherapist. And mom was also going to college to do music. But the war came. And her father died. Sorry, not the war, it was her father dying.

Well, unfortunately, you know, she had two sisters and a brother. She was the third. So the brother went on to be a surgeon, a brilliant surgeon. And her older sister was the first person to be qualified, the first girl to be qualified as a physiotherapist. And mom was also going to college to do music. But the war came. And her father died. Sorry, not the war, it was her father dying.

And then there was no money left, so she couldn't go to college. So she became a secretary. So she had a good life, but not the life that she probably would have dreamed of. So I was lucky. My dream came true.

And then there was no money left, so she couldn't go to college. So she became a secretary. So she had a good life, but not the life that she probably would have dreamed of. So I was lucky. My dream came true.

Parents need to be supportive. You know, okay, so you're a little boy of three. I'm going to be an engine driver. Oh, don't be silly. Why not say, wow, you'll be a fabulous engine driver, the best engine driver, because you know they won't be an engine driver.

Parents need to be supportive. You know, okay, so you're a little boy of three. I'm going to be an engine driver. Oh, don't be silly. Why not say, wow, you'll be a fabulous engine driver, the best engine driver, because you know they won't be an engine driver.

Well, I think I was kind of lucky because it wasn't a male-dominated field because nobody really was going out at that time. Now, of course, everybody is studying. Back then, there were two primate studies that and a giraffe study. Most studies were in captivity. And so everybody, you know, it wasn't like it is today. And I was really lucky. I had the whole feel.

I mean, nobody had studied chimps in the wild.

No, I wasn't scared. It was my dream, remember. And there were two problems. First, money, always money. Because, I mean, as you say, I wasn't trained, hadn't been to college, but finally got money for six months from an American philanthropist. And second, it was Tanganyika back then, Tanzania today. And the British authorities said, we won't take responsibility. Is this a stupid idea?

Young girl going in the forest. In the end, they said, oh, all right, but she can't come alone. That was when my amazing mother volunteered to come. That's incredible. And we, you know, our expedition was a shoestring. We had one old secondhand tent between us. We had to take a cook and we had scant supplies. But I was, you know, up in the hills every day. You were 26 years old.

Well, I can only think of the advice my mother gave me. You know, if you want to do something, work hard and take advantage of opportunity. The key thing is you've got to know you really want to do it. So today, you know, people take gap years. And that's really good because you can find out, is this really what I want to spend my life doing?

And also I meet young people and they're perhaps in their second year at university. And they say, well, you know, I actually made a mistake, but I can't change now. Well, that's the biggest mistake. Because if this is going to be the rest of your life, change now while you can into a different, you know, different career path.

And, you know, there's another thing that some women really want to be homemakers. And yet it's getting so that they're despised. You want to stay at home and you want to cook and you want to look after your children instead of being out there having a career and... you know, standing up shoulder to shoulder with your male counterparts, well, that's wrong too.

Well, you know, this is, I'm in the middle of an American spring tour, and it's pretty exhausting, to be honest. Yesterday was super exhausting.

Because if that makes you really happy, then your children will be happy, your husband, if you have one, or your boyfriend or whoever probably will be happy. And happiness is so important. It's the king of Bhutan who made this happiness index.

And it's fascinating to see, you know, that getting more and more money and more and more fame and more and more, you know, doesn't necessarily make people happy.

Yeah. And, you know, if we go back to the child, if the most important thing for the child is to be supported by two, three, four people who are consistently there, it doesn't have to be the biological mother. So... I met the chief of a Latin American indigenous tribe, and he said to me, he said, Jane, we see our tribe as like an eagle.

One wing is male, the other wing is female, and only when they're equal will the tribe fly high.

No, they don't. And you know, thing is, there are female characteristics and male characters. We all have both. But basically, we need both. We need the sort of more dominating male characteristics to stand up to things in life that might knock us down. But we need the more nurturing role of the woman.

Well, what I'm doing is trying to help people understand that we're going through very dark times. And if we don't get together and start doing what each of us can to make the world a better place, you know, the future is very uncertain.

But, you know, it's so sad. I've lived long enough to see this pendulum swing moving towards change. oh, we need more males, we need more in this society, we need to have a masculine society to deal with what we're going through. That's not right.

No, I've never felt lonely. And some of the happiest days of my life, I did eventually get a degree in Cambridge. And then I went back to Gombe, you know, the chimp study. Yeah. And I could spend hours and hours alone in the rainforest learning, yes, more about the chimpanzees, but also about this complex ecosystem where every plant and animal has a role to play and they're all interdependent.

And what I discovered was that if you're out in a beautiful place, with someone, someone you love or, you know, your family or something, then it's human beings in a beautiful environment. But when I was alone, there was, I wasn't, it was just, I was part of that world, not separated from it by being a human in that world.

It's hard to explain and it didn't happen that often, but when it did, it was a very basically spiritual experience.

I mean, are you alone if you're always on Facebook or Instagram or video games? Are you really alone?

Not really.

It is my birthday tomorrow. It's another way of, you know, what do I have to do? What's the hardest thing I have to do is raise money for all the different projects. You know, and people think, oh, Jane must be wealthy. She gives these lectures. She gets lots of money. Yes, but the money goes to our projects.

Well, it was, you know, for the first four of my six months money, the chimps ran away. I mean, they just vanished into the forest. And I just had to learn from a distance with binoculars. And then one chimpanzee began to lose his fear and let me get a bit closer. And he had beautiful white hair on his chin. I called him David Greybeard.

And on this day, I was walking through the forest and I saw him sitting on a termite mound. So he was pulling out this with termites hanging on and eating them. And sometimes he was picking leafy twigs, then he had to strip the leaves to make a tool. And the reason this was so exciting is that at that time, it was thought by Western science that only humans used and made tools.

We were defined as man, of course, man, the toolmaker. And so when I wrote to my mentor, Louis Leakey, he was just so excited. And so as we're defined as man, the tool maker, he said, we must redefine tool, redefine man, or accept chimpanzees as humans. And that was when the National Geographic stepped in and said, well, Jane's money runs out. We'll continue to support her.

And so then I could relax. And really, I got to know those chimpanzees almost like members of my family.

Well, I've been intimidated, don't worry. The first time I had to give a lecture, I thought I would die. And for the first, I don't know, it seemed forever, I couldn't even breathe, but nobody noticed. And so, basically, because I was so terrified of speaking in public, I practiced, and I made a vow. I will never read a speech, and I won't say, Amen, Err.

And if you listen, you find I'm in the odd arm, but basically I don't. And so my advice to people is, you know, be sure of what you're going to say. And if necessary, practice. Like before every lecture, even if I've given the same one The previous week, I always write down the point. So it's my mind is totally focused.

And always remember, you've given this speech before, but now you're talking to people who haven't heard it. So you've got to put the same enthusiasm.

Well, I don't really know that first time. I did it because I had to do it. Geographic, it was for the National Geographic. It was to 5,000 people in Constitutional. Okay, Jane. Yes. Whoa. And if I didn't, you know, the Geographic were paying for my field research. I had some students by then, and I had to do it. So... You do what you have to do, right? So I knew I had to do it. I practiced.

People like to celebrate my birthday the whole year. So I get all these birthdays and all these birthday cakes.

And I just felt I can't let Leakey down. I can't let the geographic down. So you just grit your teeth. It's a bit like going to the dentist. You don't really look forward to it, but you have to do it. And say to yourself, you know, I'll be really brave and it will be over. Yeah.

Well, some of the jealous male scientists will say, well, you know, she's just got this notoriety and she's getting money from Geographic and they want her on the cover and they wouldn't put her on the cover if she didn't have nice legs. So if somebody said that today, they'd be sued, right? Back then, all I wanted was to get back to the chimps.

So if my legs were getting me the money, thank you, legs. And if you look at those covers, they were jolly nice legs.

Well, I don't know. I did it by accepting that in a way they were right. So thank you. Thank you for giving me this advantage. That's good to give me the money. But you know, okay. I know that for me, it was a long time ago. It was a different era. It wouldn't work today. So all I can think of is, I don't know. I mean, you'd be better to give advice. What advice would you give?

Yes. Well, you know, my mother. She died when she was 98, and she was sharp to the end, although she had Parkinson's. But she couldn't, she just didn't drink water. She said it didn't agree with her. I don't like much water either. She couldn't drink wine, so her tipple was whiskey. So we made a thing that 7 o'clock, Wherever I was, I would raise a toast to her.

Yeah.

You're like, give me a hug. Yeah. Mind you, women want to hug me too. That's fine. Anybody can hug me. I need hugs. Okay. I'll give you a hug after this.

Well, after I was finding out exciting things about the chimps and they were getting habituated to humans, the geographic, obviously, you know, they live on it. They wanted to make a film and they wanted good photographs. So they sent Hugo van Leeuwenhoek. And I really didn't want him to come. I hadn't met him because I just wanted to be there with the chimps. You know, I didn't want anybody.

And I was afraid they'd be scared of him. And, you know, all my hard work would be undone. But as it was, he came. He loved animals. He'd always wanted to be out there with them. His route was photography. And we got on fine. And he, you know, it was thanks to his photos and film that everything I was saying about the chimps was corroborated. And so he really, really helped.

to share the knowledge that chimpanzees really are like us. They really do have gestures and postures the same as ours that mean the same thing.

Well, it ended gradually, and it ended because the Geographic stopped paying Hugo to come to Gombe. He had to go on with his career, and he got some money to do films on the Serengeti. And I couldn't leave Gombe. I had to stay. I mean, I was totally, you know, I couldn't leave Gombe. And so it slowly drifted apart. And it was sad. And I think we did the right thing. But we kind of had to do it.

You know, I definitely wish we could have carried on with that marriage because it was a good one.

I don't think there's a favorite part of aging, quite honestly. But I suppose, okay, if you look at it philosophically, the longer you live, the more you learn. And I don't like a day that I don't learn something, even a little thing. And the other thing is, you know, when you get older, you learn, well, I do.

You learn more about what's going on in the rest of the world and how to interact with people and basically be nice if you didn't get old.

Yes, I do. That's my job now. It's my actual job. So I have my reasons for hope. Number one, I mentioned, it's the young people. So this Roots & Shoots program began in 1991 with 12 high school students in Tanzania. It's now got members from kindergarten, very strong in university, everything in between. More and more young adults are forming groups. We even get groups in old people's homes.

So it's broadened out and it's different from other programs because... Because of learning, everything's interrelated. Every group chooses, well, the little ones can't choose, but once you get to middle school, they choose a project to help people, a project to help animals, a project to help the environment, and they share this with each other.

And once they roll up their sleeves, they work very hard because they chose the project. And they're making a difference. They're planting trees, they're picking up trash, they're raising money to help refugees, they're volunteering in soup kitchens or animal shelters. And the main message of Roots & Shoots, which is for everybody,

Every day you live, you make an impact on the planet and you have to choose what sort of impact you make. So all around the world now in 75 countries, young people are changing the world. And once they know the problems, and that's important, but then you empower them to take action in ways that they choose.

Not the very expensive malty ones. I hope you didn't get a very expensive.

They just, they're just, I mean, I go around visiting them and they're so full of enthusiasm and You know, so yes, we've got to create a world where their hope is viable. Next reason for hope is this extraordinary intellect that we have. And note, I don't call it intelligence because if we were intelligent, we would not be destroying our home, our only home.

And sadly, we haven't always used our intellect wisely. We've forgotten the indigenous wisdom of saying, how does this decision affect generations in the future? How does it affect me now, my family now, my next political campaign, the next shareholder meeting? We've gone into a materialistic, very often greedy society, and we need to change.

But this intellect is beginning to tell us what we need to do, how to do it, creating alternative energy, for example.

That again was celebrated the whole year. The only thing I really, really liked was when I was greeted on the beach by 90 dogs. 90 dogs. 90 dogs.

I've had a great time talking to you and meeting Henry. Let's make Henry come and say goodbye. Where is he? Henry, Henry, Henry. There he is.

90 dogs. And it was in Carmel. Carmel on the sea. It was an off leash part of the beach. And everybody brought their dogs. And so I was throwing sticks in the sea and then it began to rain and then it stopped raining. It was just amazing. It was wonderful.

And we've got a great photo of all the owners with their dogs and me sitting in front with the sea behind us. It's a great photo. I

Well, I do it because I have to. It probably sounds strange to you, but by now being 90, I feel that I was put on this planet with a mission. And right now, as I said, we're going through dark times. And the big problem is people are losing hope. Many people come up to me and say, well, I look around at all that's going wrong in the world and I just feel helpless.

And so I say, well, you can't solve the problems of the world, but what about where you live, your community? Is there something there? You feel you don't like litter on the pavement or you don't like they're planning to dig up a little forest to put yet another super mall. Go and do something about it.

Well, the thing is, you know, this mission keeps me going because there's so much to do. And if we lose hope, we're doomed. Because if you lose hope, you become apathetic and do nothing. But I'm not alone. The Jane Goodall Institute is now in 25 countries, different chapters. And in addition, there's our program for young people, Roots & Shoots, which is humanitarian and environmental.

And that's in 75 countries.

I mean, first of all, I can't retire as long as I can, you know. And if I become physically disabled, if my brain works, I want to do more writing because I love writing.

Then I can put him away. Mr. H was given to me 34 years ago. by a man who thought he was giving me a stuffed chimpanzee. His name is Gary Horn. He was blinded in the US Marines when he was 21. Anyway, he thought he was giving me a stuffed chimp, and I made him hold the tail. I said, Gary, chimps don't have tails. He said, never mind, take him with you, and you know my spirit's with you.

So he's been with me to 64 countries, and he's extremely famous. And if you touch him, I say, if you stroke him, the inspiration rubs off. So you asked how I got into it. Well, I was born loving animals. And the most important thing in my young childhood is my mother, because she supported me. So when I was one and a half years old, I don't remember this, but she told me.

She came into my room and found I'd taken... a whole handful of wriggly earthworms to bed. And instead of getting angry like most mothers, because, you know, she just said, she told me later, Jane, you are looking so intently. I think maybe you were wondering how they walk without legs. So we took them back into the earth.

Anyway, the point of that is that was the making of a little scientist, asking questions, not getting the answer, deciding to find out for yourself, making a mistake, not giving up, and learning patience. And a different mother might have crushed that early curiosity. And I might not be talking to you now.

Well, you have to remember to start with, I grew up in the war. Started when I was five. And, you know, we didn't have much money. My father went off to join the army. And we went to live with my grandmother. It was a house of women. And me and my sister, my mother, and her two sisters, and my grandmother.

And because there was no television back then, hadn't been invented, which you probably find it hard to imagine,

But anyway, you know, so I learned from being outside with nature, watching the squirrels and the birds garden in England and from books. I love books. And do you know Dr. Doolittle?

Well, I found the book of Dr. Doolittle when I was eight, came from the library. And then I used to save up just a few pennies of pocket money. My sister bought sweets with them. I saved them and I found a little secondhand bookshop. And I was 10 years old and I found this tiny cheap edition of Tarzan of the Apes, which Well, you know, no TV Tarzan, no film, just the book.

So I fell in love with this glorious lord of the jungle. And what did Tarzan do? He married the wrong Jane. So anyway, I knew there wasn't a toss. And that's when my dream began. I will grow up, go to Africa, live with wild animals and write books. No thought of being a scientist. No thought of, you know. And everybody said, that's ridiculous. I mean, you don't have money. Africa's far away.

And you're just a girl. Not my mom. She said, if you really want to do something like this, you're going to have to work really hard. Take advantage of every opportunity. And if you don't give up, hopefully you'll find a way. And that's the message I take around the world, particularly in disadvantaged communities. And I wish mom was alive. And maybe she's listening.

The number of people who said, Jane, I want to thank you. You've taught me because you did it. I can do it too.

Well, unfortunately, you know, she had two sisters and a brother. She was the third. So the brother went on to be a surgeon, a brilliant surgeon. And her older sister was the first person to be qualified, the first girl to be qualified as a physiotherapist. And mom was also going to college to do music. But the war came. And her father died. Sorry, not the war, it was her father dying.

And then there was no money left, so she couldn't go to college. So she became a secretary. So she had a good life, but not the life that she probably would have dreamed of. So I was lucky. My dream came true.

Parents need to be supportive. You know, okay, so you're a little boy of three. I'm going to be an engine driver. Oh, don't be silly. Why not say, wow, you'll be a fabulous engine driver, the best engine driver, because you know they won't be an engine driver.

Whiskey!

Whiskey!

Yes.

Yes.

And if you think how the children there, I know because I grew up in World War II. I grew up with bombing. I grew up with people being killed. I know how the children of Ukraine will be feeling. So having the program there, which is about choosing projects to make the world a better place, that's so important.

And if you think how the children there, I know because I grew up in World War II. I grew up with bombing. I grew up with people being killed. I know how the children of Ukraine will be feeling. So having the program there, which is about choosing projects to make the world a better place, that's so important.

Lovely meeting you. Bye.

Lovely meeting you. Bye.

No.

No.

Just what it is.

Just what it is.

Well, you know, there was a story there that the scientists, because when I began, I had no degree. I hadn't been to university. And I began talking about, you know, everything scientists felt about animals. It was wrong. They thought we were the only beings on the planet, humans, who had personality, mind and emotion, which of course is rubbish.

Well, you know, there was a story there that the scientists, because when I began, I had no degree. I hadn't been to university. And I began talking about, you know, everything scientists felt about animals. It was wrong. They thought we were the only beings on the planet, humans, who had personality, mind and emotion, which of course is rubbish.

And so they were absolutely mad when I got on the cover of National Geographic and people began to know who I was. And they said, well, she's only there because she's got good legs.

And so they were absolutely mad when I got on the cover of National Geographic and people began to know who I was. And they said, well, she's only there because she's got good legs.

If somebody said that now, they'd be sued, right?

If somebody said that now, they'd be sued, right?

Back then, I said to myself, well, all I want to do is go and study with Jim. And if my legs are helping me get money to do it, good legs.

Back then, I said to myself, well, all I want to do is go and study with Jim. And if my legs are helping me get money to do it, good legs.

No.

No.

Yeah, that's okay.

Yeah, that's okay.

As long as I can get to do what I want to do.

As long as I can get to do what I want to do.

Much less.

Much less.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Some of them were being complimentary, and some of them were really being extremely nasty.

Oh, yeah. Some of them were being complimentary, and some of them were really being extremely nasty.

No, I don't think so.

No, I don't think so.

I don't see movies. You don't see... I don't have time.

I don't see movies. You don't see... I don't have time.

I'm not sure I ever have.

I'm not sure I ever have.

Well, very rare. I was going to ask you what your favorite movie was, but... My favorite movie is Lord of the Rings.

Well, very rare. I was going to ask you what your favorite movie was, but... My favorite movie is Lord of the Rings.

I love it.

I love it.

No, I haven't.

No, I haven't.

Yeah, vaguely.

Yeah, vaguely.

No, I'm not sure.

No, I'm not sure.

That's how I knew.

That's how I knew.

Ugh.

Ugh.

That's my theory. That's my theory. Maybe it was.

That's my theory. That's my theory. Maybe it was.

Maybe.

Maybe.

There you are. That's your theory. Now prove it.

There you are. That's your theory. Now prove it.

No. How can you prove it right now? You can't.

No. How can you prove it right now? You can't.

She's much better looking than me.

She's much better looking than me.

No, this is a giant forest rat.

No, this is a giant forest rat.

Ratty.

Ratty.

Ratty. You loved books. Wow. So I just had saved up enough money, and I found this little book called Cousin of the Apes. No films back then. So I had just enough money to buy it, and I read it. Of course, I fell in love with it. And what did he do? Married the wrong Jane.

Ratty. You loved books. Wow. So I just had saved up enough money, and I found this little book called Cousin of the Apes. No films back then. So I had just enough money to buy it, and I read it. Of course, I fell in love with it. And what did he do? Married the wrong Jane.

Yeah, and I'm looking forward to it.

Yeah, and I'm looking forward to it.

He's following me around making a film called The Real Jane or Chasing Jane.

He's following me around making a film called The Real Jane or Chasing Jane.

I'm doing one with Leo DiCaprio.

I'm doing one with Leo DiCaprio.

And it's going to be not a real Jane, an actress Jane.

And it's going to be not a real Jane, an actress Jane.

We haven't found one yet.

We haven't found one yet.

You can't be Jane. Sorry.

You can't be Jane. Sorry.

I drank it.

I drank it.

Well, because I think that you don't quite look like Jane.

Well, because I think that you don't quite look like Jane.

You don't talk like Jane.

You don't talk like Jane.

I think whatever we did to your face, it still wouldn't look female.

I think whatever we did to your face, it still wouldn't look female.

Yes, and also your hair isn't quite right. No, it's not.

Yes, and also your hair isn't quite right. No, it's not.

Your eyes are the wrong color.

Your eyes are the wrong color.

Your nose is the wrong shape.

Your nose is the wrong shape.

So you'd have to more or less play one of my husbands.

So you'd have to more or less play one of my husbands.

I had two.

I had two.

You don't look like either. Sorry, you're actually out of the film.

You don't look like either. Sorry, you're actually out of the film.

I doubt it.

I doubt it.

Well, I think, you know, the thing is that young people have such an important role to play, and they don't know how to play it. And that's my job.

Well, I think, you know, the thing is that young people have such an important role to play, and they don't know how to play it. And that's my job.

Well, they're the next generation. We, older generations, have messed up the planet. We need to help them, give them the tools, give them the confidence, encourage them, inspire them, and empower them. to choose projects to do that they care about. And maybe it's clearing the subway. This looks very clean to me, by the way.

Well, they're the next generation. We, older generations, have messed up the planet. We need to help them, give them the tools, give them the confidence, encourage them, inspire them, and empower them. to choose projects to do that they care about. And maybe it's clearing the subway. This looks very clean to me, by the way.

No, because the New York jungle gives out CO2 emissions. My jungle takes them in.

No, because the New York jungle gives out CO2 emissions. My jungle takes them in.

Yeah, it looks like a London tube.

Yeah, it looks like a London tube.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Even in Africa, we have fountains.

Even in Africa, we have fountains.

In my house, we use fans.

In my house, we use fans.

I love dogs.

I love dogs.

No, not a bit.

No, not a bit.

No.

No.

No, because I love cats too. But you don't love them as much as dogs. Well, dogs to me are my thing, you know?

No, because I love cats too. But you don't love them as much as dogs. Well, dogs to me are my thing, you know?

Big difference, right?

Big difference, right?

Because when I was young, I had a dog who was a teacher.

Because when I was young, I had a dog who was a teacher.

Yes, he taught me that when I went to Cambridge years later and was told that only humans had personality, mind, and emotion, I knew that was rubbish because my dog taught me that when I was young.

Yes, he taught me that when I went to Cambridge years later and was told that only humans had personality, mind, and emotion, I knew that was rubbish because my dog taught me that when I was young.

Yep.

Yep.

You've got cats. Do they have personality? Yes. Do they have minds? Yes. Do they have emotions?

You've got cats. Do they have personality? Yes. Do they have minds? Yes. Do they have emotions?

Well, there you are. You've answered the question.

Well, there you are. You've answered the question.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Well, I don't know what to call this great spiritual power, but I believe there's a great spiritual power.

Well, I don't know what to call this great spiritual power, but I believe there's a great spiritual power.

When I was young, I was brought up as a Christian. My grandfather was a congregation minister. So, you know, I used to go to church, but we weren't a super religious family. And then I kind of forgot about it when I was young. Then back in the forest, in Gombe, I rediscovered this strong spiritual connection with the natural world.

When I was young, I was brought up as a Christian. My grandfather was a congregation minister. So, you know, I used to go to church, but we weren't a super religious family. And then I kind of forgot about it when I was young. Then back in the forest, in Gombe, I rediscovered this strong spiritual connection with the natural world.

Well, no, but it's like, you know, even the most famous scientists today are saying that there is an intelligence behind the universe. And you have called that God or Tao or, you know, all the different religions, I think, are the same.

Well, no, but it's like, you know, even the most famous scientists today are saying that there is an intelligence behind the universe. And you have called that God or Tao or, you know, all the different religions, I think, are the same.

And they all have the same main thing, do to others as you would have them do to you. And if we live by that, what a different world it would be.

And they all have the same main thing, do to others as you would have them do to you. And if we live by that, what a different world it would be.

Well, wherever I go, I like things like Indian takeaway.

Well, wherever I go, I like things like Indian takeaway.

I do.

I do.

No, they don't.

No, they don't.

And you know that there's problems like I know here in the subway, there's problems with rats. Well, the only reason is that food scraps get thrown away and rats are highly intelligent. So, hey, here's a food source. And because they breed faster than we do, luckily, then they get to be too many. But I carry Ratty with me for every lecture. I bring up rats.

And you know that there's problems like I know here in the subway, there's problems with rats. Well, the only reason is that food scraps get thrown away and rats are highly intelligent. So, hey, here's a food source. And because they breed faster than we do, luckily, then they get to be too many. But I carry Ratty with me for every lecture. I bring up rats.

He's a giant forest rat, and they have been trained to detect landmines buried under the soil. Trained? After an African conflict. I've watched them being trained, and they're just amazing. Some of them are being trained to, like, if there's been an earthquake, being little guys, they can wriggle around underneath, and they detect people who are still alive.

He's a giant forest rat, and they have been trained to detect landmines buried under the soil. Trained? After an African conflict. I've watched them being trained, and they're just amazing. Some of them are being trained to, like, if there's been an earthquake, being little guys, they can wriggle around underneath, and they detect people who are still alive.

Yeah. I don't like restaurants. You don't like restaurants? They waste money.

Yeah. I don't like restaurants. You don't like restaurants? They waste money.

Yes. And then they have a little bell around their neck. And they stand up and they ring it.

Yes. And then they have a little bell around their neck. And they stand up and they ring it.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes, I have.

Yes, I have.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes, and you think so too, don't you?

Yes, and you think so too, don't you?

So, you know, they're multiplying because they're intelligent enough to know there's food here.

So, you know, they're multiplying because they're intelligent enough to know there's food here.

So if people stopped throwing away bits of food, you wouldn't have a rat problem.

So if people stopped throwing away bits of food, you wouldn't have a rat problem.

And look at the explosion of the human population. Just the same.

And look at the explosion of the human population. Just the same.

Well, there could be.

Well, there could be.

There's stories about it in every country.

There's stories about it in every country.

No, just get a takeaway. It's cheaper.

No, just get a takeaway. It's cheaper.

In the world. Wow. No, I won't say every country, but every region.

In the world. Wow. No, I won't say every country, but every region.

No. No.

No. No.

Oh, yes.

Oh, yes.

I don't think they would understand me.

I don't think they would understand me.

If they did, I don't know what I'd say. I'd have to wait and see who it was.

If they did, I don't know what I'd say. I'd have to wait and see who it was.

That's right.

That's right.

Well, you know, there's things more important than Bigfoot. Like, people are fed up with politics, right? So they don't want to vote.

Well, you know, there's things more important than Bigfoot. Like, people are fed up with politics, right? So they don't want to vote.

And the more people who don't vote, the more serious it can be. And young people especially, they're depressed, they're fed up, they're angry. So what I'm trying to say to them is, you know, you do care about your future. You need politicians out there You need to vote for the one who's most likely to care for the environment, who's just caring for your feet. And that's why we're doing this.

And the more people who don't vote, the more serious it can be. And young people especially, they're depressed, they're fed up, they're angry. So what I'm trying to say to them is, you know, you do care about your future. You need politicians out there You need to vote for the one who's most likely to care for the environment, who's just caring for your feet. And that's why we're doing this.

Much cheaper.

Much cheaper.

Vote for Mother Earth. Vote for your future.

Vote for Mother Earth. Vote for your future.

And the future of your children.

And the future of your children.

Oh, from New York? Years and years and years and years and years.

Oh, from New York? Years and years and years and years and years.

I got it from Jeff Horowitz. We're partners.

I got it from Jeff Horowitz. We're partners.

His daughter made it.

His daughter made it.

Of course it's an old, it came from a dumpster.

Of course it's an old, it came from a dumpster.

Yes, it came from a dumpster.

Yes, it came from a dumpster.

Yeah, we have to start thinking like that.

Yeah, we have to start thinking like that.

We must think like that. We must think about waste. We must think about pollution. We must think about... So it's so much better to take a subway than drive in a car.

We must think like that. We must think about waste. We must think about pollution. We must think about... So it's so much better to take a subway than drive in a car.

Yes, we must.

Yes, we must.

That's right. We must buy things that we don't want.

That's right. We must buy things that we don't want.

And, you know, people buy stuff because it's cheap and they buy too much. Then they waste it. Human waste is a huge problem.

And, you know, people buy stuff because it's cheap and they buy too much. Then they waste it. Human waste is a huge problem.

I mean, I'm 90. Come on, I'm 90.

I mean, I'm 90. Come on, I'm 90.

That's right.

That's right.

Or to the ocean or wherever they want. Young people today, they... They want to help, but they don't know what to do.

Or to the ocean or wherever they want. Young people today, they... They want to help, but they don't know what to do.

Helpless and hopeless.

Helpless and hopeless.

No, they need to feel we have to empower them, we sometimes educate them, help them to understand that each and every one of them makes an impact on the planet every day, and they can choose. And that's why I started our program, my program, Roots and Shoes. It's the children of all ages in 71 countries and growing. The last country was Ukraine. Wow.

No, they need to feel we have to empower them, we sometimes educate them, help them to understand that each and every one of them makes an impact on the planet every day, and they can choose. And that's why I started our program, my program, Roots and Shoes. It's the children of all ages in 71 countries and growing. The last country was Ukraine. Wow.

Whiskey!

Yes.

And if you think how the children there, I know because I grew up in World War II. I grew up with bombing. I grew up with people being killed. I know how the children of Ukraine will be feeling. So having the program there, which is about choosing projects to make the world a better place, that's so important.

Lovely meeting you. Bye.

No.

Just what it is.

Well, you know, there was a story there that the scientists, because when I began, I had no degree. I hadn't been to university. And I began talking about, you know, everything scientists felt about animals. It was wrong. They thought we were the only beings on the planet, humans, who had personality, mind and emotion, which of course is rubbish.

And so they were absolutely mad when I got on the cover of National Geographic and people began to know who I was. And they said, well, she's only there because she's got good legs.

If somebody said that now, they'd be sued, right?

Back then, I said to myself, well, all I want to do is go and study with Jim. And if my legs are helping me get money to do it, good legs.

No.

Yeah, that's okay.

As long as I can get to do what I want to do.

Much less.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Some of them were being complimentary, and some of them were really being extremely nasty.

No, I don't think so.

I don't see movies. You don't see... I don't have time.

I'm not sure I ever have.

Well, very rare. I was going to ask you what your favorite movie was, but... My favorite movie is Lord of the Rings.

I love it.

No, I haven't.

Yeah, vaguely.

No, I'm not sure.

That's how I knew.

Ugh.

That's my theory. That's my theory. Maybe it was.

Maybe.

There you are. That's your theory. Now prove it.

No. How can you prove it right now? You can't.

She's much better looking than me.

No, this is a giant forest rat.

Ratty.

Ratty. You loved books. Wow. So I just had saved up enough money, and I found this little book called Cousin of the Apes. No films back then. So I had just enough money to buy it, and I read it. Of course, I fell in love with it. And what did he do? Married the wrong Jane.

Yeah, and I'm looking forward to it.

He's following me around making a film called The Real Jane or Chasing Jane.

I'm doing one with Leo DiCaprio.

And it's going to be not a real Jane, an actress Jane.

We haven't found one yet.

You can't be Jane. Sorry.

I drank it.

Well, because I think that you don't quite look like Jane.

You don't talk like Jane.

I think whatever we did to your face, it still wouldn't look female.

Yes, and also your hair isn't quite right. No, it's not.

Your eyes are the wrong color.

Your nose is the wrong shape.

So you'd have to more or less play one of my husbands.

I had two.

You don't look like either. Sorry, you're actually out of the film.

I doubt it.

Well, I think, you know, the thing is that young people have such an important role to play, and they don't know how to play it. And that's my job.

Well, they're the next generation. We, older generations, have messed up the planet. We need to help them, give them the tools, give them the confidence, encourage them, inspire them, and empower them. to choose projects to do that they care about. And maybe it's clearing the subway. This looks very clean to me, by the way.

No, because the New York jungle gives out CO2 emissions. My jungle takes them in.

Yeah, it looks like a London tube.

Yeah.

Even in Africa, we have fountains.

In my house, we use fans.

I love dogs.

No, not a bit.

No.

No, because I love cats too. But you don't love them as much as dogs. Well, dogs to me are my thing, you know?

Big difference, right?

Because when I was young, I had a dog who was a teacher.

Yes, he taught me that when I went to Cambridge years later and was told that only humans had personality, mind, and emotion, I knew that was rubbish because my dog taught me that when I was young.

Yep.

You've got cats. Do they have personality? Yes. Do they have minds? Yes. Do they have emotions?

Well, there you are. You've answered the question.

Yes.

Yes.

Well, I don't know what to call this great spiritual power, but I believe there's a great spiritual power.

When I was young, I was brought up as a Christian. My grandfather was a congregation minister. So, you know, I used to go to church, but we weren't a super religious family. And then I kind of forgot about it when I was young. Then back in the forest, in Gombe, I rediscovered this strong spiritual connection with the natural world.

Well, no, but it's like, you know, even the most famous scientists today are saying that there is an intelligence behind the universe. And you have called that God or Tao or, you know, all the different religions, I think, are the same.

And they all have the same main thing, do to others as you would have them do to you. And if we live by that, what a different world it would be.

Well, wherever I go, I like things like Indian takeaway.

I do.

No, they don't.

And you know that there's problems like I know here in the subway, there's problems with rats. Well, the only reason is that food scraps get thrown away and rats are highly intelligent. So, hey, here's a food source. And because they breed faster than we do, luckily, then they get to be too many. But I carry Ratty with me for every lecture. I bring up rats.

He's a giant forest rat, and they have been trained to detect landmines buried under the soil. Trained? After an African conflict. I've watched them being trained, and they're just amazing. Some of them are being trained to, like, if there's been an earthquake, being little guys, they can wriggle around underneath, and they detect people who are still alive.

Yeah. I don't like restaurants. You don't like restaurants? They waste money.

Yes. And then they have a little bell around their neck. And they stand up and they ring it.

Yes.

Yes, I have.

Yes.

Yes, and you think so too, don't you?

So, you know, they're multiplying because they're intelligent enough to know there's food here.

So if people stopped throwing away bits of food, you wouldn't have a rat problem.

And look at the explosion of the human population. Just the same.

Well, there could be.

There's stories about it in every country.

No, just get a takeaway. It's cheaper.

In the world. Wow. No, I won't say every country, but every region.

No. No.

Oh, yes.

I don't think they would understand me.

If they did, I don't know what I'd say. I'd have to wait and see who it was.

That's right.

Well, you know, there's things more important than Bigfoot. Like, people are fed up with politics, right? So they don't want to vote.

And the more people who don't vote, the more serious it can be. And young people especially, they're depressed, they're fed up, they're angry. So what I'm trying to say to them is, you know, you do care about your future. You need politicians out there You need to vote for the one who's most likely to care for the environment, who's just caring for your feet. And that's why we're doing this.

Much cheaper.

Vote for Mother Earth. Vote for your future.

And the future of your children.

Oh, from New York? Years and years and years and years and years.

I got it from Jeff Horowitz. We're partners.

His daughter made it.

Of course it's an old, it came from a dumpster.

Yes, it came from a dumpster.

Yeah, we have to start thinking like that.

We must think like that. We must think about waste. We must think about pollution. We must think about... So it's so much better to take a subway than drive in a car.

Yes, we must.

That's right. We must buy things that we don't want.

And, you know, people buy stuff because it's cheap and they buy too much. Then they waste it. Human waste is a huge problem.

I mean, I'm 90. Come on, I'm 90.

That's right.

Or to the ocean or wherever they want. Young people today, they... They want to help, but they don't know what to do.

Helpless and hopeless.

No, they need to feel we have to empower them, we sometimes educate them, help them to understand that each and every one of them makes an impact on the planet every day, and they can choose. And that's why I started our program, my program, Roots and Shoes. It's the children of all ages in 71 countries and growing. The last country was Ukraine. Wow.