Jane Marie
Appearances
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Well, it's like making a dollar at any cost. For nothing. For nothing. I know. I interviewed, I remember in 2008, I did this piece with Adam Davidson for This American Life. Yeah. Right after the crash in 2008, we went down to Wall Street.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And to this bar, Pound and Pence, I think was the name. Anyway, like a douche. It's one of those bars where I walk in and I cannot tell the difference between any of the men there.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Yeah, I was living in New York at the time. And I got into a screaming match with these guys who were bankers who had just gotten bailed out and were like, you're stupid if this whole thing ruined your life in any way. Like, I figured out.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
If you're not trying to be a billionaire, you must be an idiot. And the reason I still have a job, even though really the truth was they got bailed out, but they said to me, the reason I still have a job is because I'm smarter than you. Like I learned the system. I learned how to game the system.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ja, ja. Und Ira Glass, mein alter Boss, hat mir gesagt, es gab eine Geschichte über unsere Show in den New York Times letztes Jahr. Und er war so, ich vergesse nicht genau, aber es war so etwas wie, Jane hat diese echte Axte, oder so etwas. Sie fühlt sich, als wäre das Leben sehr unfair, und dass dieses Land sehr, wie Dinge sind unfair.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
She feels like the world's unjust. And I was like, well, no shit. Am I being manic right now? I feel like I'm all over the place. Because I haven't seen you in so long. We're like being those old friends.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Maybe I should write a book about how to make a perfect child. Because my child is perfect.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
He left. I never want to shit talk my daughter's father because... And I learned this when I was becoming a foster mom. I have an adult foster daughter.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Yeah. And it's not my job to step in the middle of that, especially with someone who is her other closest relative. Like this is half of her, is this person. And I want her to love him and know him. And I want him to love her because that's very important for her health.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Because you're not stupid. Yeah, kind of. Seriously, I don't recommend it.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And also don't protect them from the harsh parts. Like self-confidence is built by like overcoming shittiness, you know.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
But you can stand up to it enough to have a home.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
But I'm saying, you have a shelter, you have a job. Yes, yes, yes.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
So... My folks met when they were... My mom was in 8th grade and my dad was in 9th grade. And she got elected to student council. And moving into high school, she had to go over there and take a class from the student council in 9th grade. And my mom was like a boobless dork. Like really short hair, buck teeth, flat chested nerd. And this is where? Michigan? Yeah, in the middle of nowhere.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Like outside of Flint, Michigan in a rural area. Small, small town. And my dad was also on student council. Also ein Dork, aber auch der superlative König im Seniorjahr. Smartest, hottest, greatest athlete, all of this stuff. My mom blossomed also later, but she wrote in her diary in 8th grade, I'm gonna marry Jeff. And they got married when she was 17.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And moved to Ann Arbor, Michigan, where my dad played football for Bo Schembechler. And then I was born a couple years later. And he was like, this is the lore. Who knows if our parents were ever telling us, you know what I mean?
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Seriously. It's coming soon. Well, no, it's not actually, because they're like, not that old, but...
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ja, die Dinge gehen seitdem mit meinen beiden Eltern in Ordnung. Sie haben alles neu geschrieben.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Was ist die Geschichte? And she was working at a pizza place and my dad was playing football and just like going to school. And then he decided that if he was going to have a kid, he didn't want to go into the NFL and like have his knees broken and not be able to take care of me. So then he went to his counselor and took a test. And it said, bleep, bleep, blorp, you should be a dentist.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
But we lived in like subsidized housing and stuff that whole time.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
So, he was, I want to say like, I mean, they were children, but we lived in Ann Arbor until I was like seven or something. And then we moved back to the country.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And he has a practice there now. And he... Ja, das ist schön. Sie sind noch zusammen? Oh, nein. Nein, nein, das ist eine andere Sache. Nein, nein. Wir lebten dort, bis ich 14 Jahre alt war. Und dann, als ich 10 Jahre alt war, hat mein Vater eine Emotionsaffäre mit meiner Tochter. Mit deiner Tochter?
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Und dann, als er meine Mutter erzählte, war meine Mutter so, oh, oh, das erinnert mich an mich. Ich war nicht eine Virgin, als wir verheiratet wurden.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Yeah, and then both of them were like, do we both have bipolar disorder? Like, what's going on now? Because we're like 30 years old and like everything's going awry. And so eventually my mom left and we moved back to Ann Arbor and she went to school there. And then she started dating like this guy from a punk band that was like close to my age. And then...
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
My mom then had an affair with the court-appointed psychologist from my parents' divorce.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Yeah. Yeah. No, I was, it was, it went on for five years with like his wife's barging into my mom's house and stuff.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Obviously. Of five now. So there was me and my brother two years younger.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And then my sister eight years younger than me from my mom and dad.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
They were. Yeah. And then once the divorce happened, I have a couple steps from my mom's second marriage, who I love very much. And then my dad, okay, so my dad is young. And we had that kind of like father-daughter thing where we would go out and people would think we were on a date.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Er wohnte in Michigan, ein paar Stunden weg von Chicago. Er kam immer wieder auf Iras Frau. Er rief mich immer wieder an und ich musste ihm sagen, er soll ein Leben haben. Als ich an dieser Geschichte gearbeitet habe, waren wir an einer Geschichte am Show über russische Brüder. Wir checkten Fakten über die legit russischen Brüder-Websites.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ich sende das mal an und dachte mir, ich muss hier aufhören. Wow. Wow.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ich versuche es für ein Buch oder so zu retten. Ich weiß nicht. Ich komme manchmal in diese Vibe mit meiner Familiengeschichte, weil es wirklich merkwürdig ist. Und ich erzähle dir nur 10 Prozent.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
It's only recently that any one of them have ever started like looking at Fox News or something like we don't. That's not the world.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
My mom borrowed my clothes for dates, you know.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Yeah, like that kind of level. And again, my dad, like, we hung out. We went to raves in Detroit together.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Well, until I got caught with cocaine and then he was like, maybe the rave thing isn't the best.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
I actually moved out when I was 16 in Ann Arbor.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
I lived with my mom at the time and it was... I really felt like... I did have this thing as a girl and like... How do I say this? I was definitely sexualized by... Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. So yeah, I moved out at 16. But then I got into drugs, which was a blast. Yeah. But only for like a year. Yeah. And I had to get rescued.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Running around. Getting like staph infections is basically what was happening.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Not a great party. Letting older men like bick my head. It was raving in Detroit in the early 90s.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Dentist came to the rescue, took me home, said I have three rules. No boys overnight, call me every three days. And I forget what the third one was. Oh, no drugs in the house.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ja. Ja. Ja. Wow, volles Leben. Ja. Ich war in einem Bar und habe mich irgendwie in den Honors College eingelassen. Das ist sehr seltsam. Ich habe dort gearbeitet und dann habe ich angefangen, an meinem College-Radio-Station zu arbeiten. Und das war genau, als Pro Tools... Okay, Leute, hört auf, Publikum. Das ist, wo wir wirklich ins Baseball kommen werden. Die Pro Tools-Tage. Wow.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ja, Pro Tools ist passiert. Und ich bin zu einer Konvention gegangen und habe mit den Leuten von Pro Tools getroffen. Und es war so, können wir ein System für unsere Schule haben? Und sie sagten, ja. Also habe ich Pro Tools gelernt. And then one day I was driving home from Chicago to Michigan and I heard this radio story about a guy who was... A tequila man, did you ever?
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Yeah, he was like friends from college with this guy that became a tequila mascot.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And like traveled around letting people like take shots off of his body and stuff and he was like hired by resorts to be like the tequila man.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ja, genau. Aber ich hörte diese Geschichte und dachte mir, ich muss das anschauen. Und dann habe ich es durch die Kredite gelesen und es sagte, es ist das amerikanische Leben. Also am nächsten Tag ging ich zur Schule und kam auf das frühere Internet und schaute die Show auf. Und sie hatten ein Internat. Okay. Und ich habe eingeladen. Und dann hörte ich nichts. Überall. Was gut ist.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Weil, was erwartete ich? Ja, klar. Then it turned out the hiring manager was late hiring a new intern. And I lived right down the street. I wasn't someone from an Ivy League school that had to move or anything. Plus I was older because I went to school late. I was, I think, 24 or something. It was starly kind. She called me. We stayed on the phone for an hour.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And then I was like, okay, so did you want me to come in for an interview? And she was like, that was your interview. And I was like, no, no, no. And then she called me an hour later, her and Jonathan Goldstein, and they said, do you want to come be our intern? And I said, yes. And then I just hit it off with everybody. Since then, Ira has said very complimentary things about my skills.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
But I didn't go in there knowing anything about that world, really. Especially culturally, the world. I don't... Ja, genau. It was a bit of a culture shock for me to have, or like a learning curve basically, to know what people were talking about when they were talking about graduate school or like going to journalism, like studying.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
I just went in there with technical skills, like I can cut tape really fast, like really fucking fast. The tops of the shows, like the beginning of the shows, I used to cut those five minutes before air.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Like I would record and I would mix it with the music, like... Ja, live radio is thrilling. It was so much fun. Aber ja, er sagt, er hat mich für meinen Geschmack bezahlt und dass ich ein sehr natürlicher Editor war. Was ich als eine Verletzung war, als er es mir zuerst gesagt hat. Du bist nicht trainiert.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Oh mein Gott, ich wünschte, ich wäre da gewesen. Ja, er ist ein Howard Stern-Freak. Ist das nicht interessant?
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Nun, ich war Unternehmerin, und dann war ich wieder Unternehmerin, weil es wieder passiert ist. Also habe ich zwei Termine als Unternehmerin gemacht. Und dann am Ende meines Unternehmens... And I was, like, producing things, but mostly learning. Yeah.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And following everyone around and working, like, 70, 80 hours a week and just staying until 11 o'clock at night and hope, keeping my fingers crossed, that, like, Ira would order dinner, you know? Yeah. Because it was just, like, a poor... They did... I will say, they had a paid internship. They still do.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
That's the only reason I ever applied. Because I didn't have the money.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
What do you want to do? And I was like, I want to work here. And he was like, I'm not hiring. And I was like, you will be eventually. And he was like, maybe not. Why don't you want to go to all things? I could put a word in for you at all these places. And I was like, no, I'm fine. I'll just hang out here. So I kept bartending. I kept...
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
volunteering at the studio, like at WBZ, at the radio station, and doing some really sketchy, actually, stringer work. A stringer is like someone that goes out with a tape recorder to record someone on the other end of a phone interview. I did some stuff with recently released death row inmates and things in my car. But eventually someone got pregnant and needed to go on maternity leave. Yes.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Yeah. Yes, exactly. And I love that type of journalism. And I mean, I learned directly from the best person at it.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
As far as like audio journalism goes. Like I got very lucky that I sat right next to that person for 10 years.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
You know. And he even told me when I was an intern, like at the very beginning, he said like, if you want to learn how to do this stuff, you got to find the things that you like, like the people that you like who are doing this and just copy them until you figure out what your thing is. I listen to my old pieces. Oh my God, I sound like... So bad. So inept. My scripts are horrible.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
I sound like I'm trying to be on This American Life.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Yes. Yeah. I can teach it to you if you want to get a script up.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Well, you're doing 25% less mark right now. Yeah. Let's lock it down a little bit flatter.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
I don't think you're thinking about what you're saying, so can we start that one again? Sure. I want you to think about the words. Okay, okay.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
So where do you go from there? You're almost there. But we know you're a funny person, so we have to inject a little bit of that, but keep it flat.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Boom! You're hired. Where's the check? No, I spent 10 years doing that with people.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
No, that type of journalism is awesome. And that's what I want to do. I want to just be myself without inserting myself in every single part of the story. I also don't want to be navel-gazy all the time. I want to be able to tell personal parts of the story without... And engage people. Yeah, and engage people as a normal person. That's another thing that happens in the audio documentary world.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
People come in to tell stories and you're just like, I cannot relate to this person at all. Like they...
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Das ist die erste Saison, die wir gemacht haben.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Nein, nein, nein, nein, nein. Also, ich habe einen Anruf von Stitcher bekommen, von Laura Mayer, die sagt, wir wollen ein Show über MLMs machen. Und dann habe ich sie auf dem Telefon für immer gedreht. Und ich war so, blablabla, jeder, den ich kenne.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ich habe noch einen Freund, der auf dem Show war, der Taschen verkauft. Ja. Obwohl die Firma gerade zerstört ist. Und jetzt verkauft sie, ich glaube, sie verkauft Diät-Shakes. Auf jeden Fall. Ich bin zu ein paar ihrer Partys für das Berichten gegangen. Es war so lustig.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Und wenn ich noch in Owasso oder Corona oder in irgendeiner dieser Teilen von Michigan wäre, ich weiß nicht, dass ich nicht etwas wie Make-up zu meinen Freunden verkaufen würde.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
It's this faux meritocracy that I have a big problem with, which is being sold to people by the people stealing the money from people who think this is a meritocracy. You know, it's not. It's like Donald Trump is definitely not the top 1% smartest or most capable person.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
No, I mean, I do too. I didn't vote for Trump, but we all want to win. Right. And if the story is, which is the story of America, that like those who try hardest, you know, keep your nose to the grindstone. It's also so like the bootstrap thinking thing. I spent a lot of time thinking about this, which I think is just one of the most racist things. Ideas out there.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
It came about after the Civil War, where it was just like a way for white people to tell black people that it's on them now.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Yeah, now it's on everybody. But it was this idea of like, we let you go free, now it's all on you. There's no social safety nets and we're not going to help you do anything. You've got to just pick yourself up by your bootstraps. Even though we didn't let you have any.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And now it's literally everybody. But there's been studies done, we talked about this on the show, about personality types when it comes to this sort of thing. There are personalities who look at the potential of making money. Ja. Ja. Ja.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Wellness and supplements and all of that, yeah.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Yeah. We just did an episode about RFK Jr. and his thoughts about vaccines and all that stuff.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Yeah. In the wellness season 2 we did an episode about this. I can say, just coming from poor people, I mean, healthcare is expensive.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And vitamins are also expensive, but not... Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. And we have let people down in the healthcare world a lot in this country in particular. And I totally get the impulse to want to find some alternative to waiting in line at Cedars for some asshole to come in and tell you there's nothing that can be done.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Who was? Yeah. Yeah. company doing like door-to-door sales and then decided that they were going to start their own company like that, but they didn't have a product. So they built the whole framework for what Amway was going to look like in terms of hiring and recruiting and all of those things. You can be a distributor. And then they went and acquired a bar soap company.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
I think it was called Frisk or something like that. So it's all hype. It's all hype. And they made a fortune. Oh my god.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Yeah, well, that's the other thing. There's no rules. You don't have to be an adult or have a degree or anything.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
That's what's so great about this opportunity, Mark.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
I talk about this in the book. I fell for one once. It's not an MLM exactly, but it was an infomercial scam where they sold tapes or CDs and books about how to put Chinese-manufactured tchotchkes in the back of magazines. Huh. And I was like, that sounds like so much fun.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Also, if you're a business person, just make your own business.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Virtuous, quote unquote, personality trait. What was the third season about? Life coaching.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ich habe einen Mann verheiratet. Ich weiß. Ich habe auch zwei verheiratet. Like, I had all the hope in the world about this thing that was clearly, if I read even one piece of paper about this.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Zu einem supposedly männlichen Cishet. Was war das? Ich habe es zweimal gemacht. Ich habe es zweimal gemacht. Das ist, wie hoffnungsvoll ich war, eine bestimmte Version des amerikanischen Traums zu erreichen. Ja, sicher. Upsie-Daisy, aber das ist unsere Folklore.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
I feel like there's cracks forming most recently. I mean, I've been complaining about the one presenters for years now, but I do feel like we're kind of seeing finally out loud. Right. Right. Like, or I could be a loser.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Who doesn't care about that sort of thing. And again, when I've spoken to very wealthy people, they don't understand why I don't want to be a billionaire.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Like, there's no... They can't comprehend why I wouldn't want to hoard all of my neighbor's wealth.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
I just want to be fine. And I want to be nice. And I want to help people. And I want to raise a normal person.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
That's what that was all about. I do listen to almost exclusively rap music, so I'm not that woke.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
What are you, an idiot? And also... Das Ideal von einem Billion Dollar zu wollen, ist das, worauf das ganze Land gebaut wurde. Und es durch Nepotismus zu bekommen.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Das war etwas, was ich früh in dieser Saison erwähnt habe. Wenn ich einen Lebenscoach habe, der kein zertifizierter Therapeut oder Doktor ist, möchte ich, dass ihr Leben perfekt ist. Aber perfekt für dich. Für mich, ja. Aber das existiert nicht. Diese Saison war wirklich interessant.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
We did a whole episode about how many unemployed life coaches there are. Life coaches that have been recently fired from their jobs and they're like, you know what I'm going to do? Teach other people how to get jobs. Right.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ja. Ja. Ja. I'm being part of my community and I'm helping women feel good about themselves. I think that's just as important as what the sucker is getting out of it.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Anything I want. Because I bought the show away from the giant corporations that were run by people who've never done anything in journalism or podcasting. And so it's a weekly now. It's not seasonal. I'm doing interviews and reporting on whatever I feel like.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Well, today's episode was about a case where a woman was, a young woman was put on a suicide hold, arrested and taken to a hospital for considering having an abortion. That's happening. Like thinking about having an abortion.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Her former friends that she had been a pro-life activist with when she was 15 years old.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Okay. Ja. Ja. Ja. Well, I mean, that's what they, you know what I mean? That's what they believe, though, is that they, you know, why wouldn't they have the very best doctors? They need to keep their kind alive.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
That's how I closed the episode. I was just like, when you let your politics completely impact and erase your morals, what are you even doing? Why do you have an idea about who should be president if at the end of the day you don't care if... Right. Yeah.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
But there's also a content creator or whatever.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
I go on TikTok and sell one of those slicer things, the cheese grinder.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Same. And I want to have a, I mean, and I don't mind having a job. Like, I don't mind working.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Well, that's why I like bartending. I loved bartending. I was really good at it.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And then I get to show off how I can do one thing with my foot and one thing with my... Performative.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
So this season we also did some follow-ups about the former people that were on about MLMs, folks who had been scammed. I'm talking to this woman, Dory, tomorrow, who, she's like the best kind of maniac. She believes that she's solved what Stonehenge was for.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
She's really smart, though. I think she has a great idea. How I would sum up the research she's done, and she's a lay person. She's not a historian or anything. Or an archaeologist. But I think she gives credit to how smart people have been since people have been people. Instead of being like, oh, it must have been hocus pocus and weird stuff.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
She was like, no, I think it was a meat processing plant.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ja, und sie hat Drehungen und alles. Das ist, wie es funktioniert.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ja, es ist wirklich gut. Also, was auch immer ich interessiert bin.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ja, seltsam. Es ist seltsam, dass sie es überhaupt sind.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ich liebe es, wenn man sagt, dass wir in einer Fantasie leben. Ja. Und ich spreche nicht von online oder so. Aber wir leben in dieser Pretend-Welt, in der wir alle geboren wurden. Ich wurde geboren, um zu glauben, dass wenn ich hart gearbeitet habe und Effort verbracht habe, dass mein Leben in Ordnung wäre. Ich könnte vielleicht ein Haus haben, das ich besitze.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Oder ein Kind, das nicht verdammt ist. Oder, weißt du, und alles, was es wirklich brauchte, war mein Mindset. Like me putting my mind towards something. And the stories that I'm really drawn to are where that shows not to be true at all. Like that the powers that be have a lot more influence on what happens to each and every one of us.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And I know the Stonehenge thing seems like an outlier, but I do think it's important to recognize like people have always been smart.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Exactly. And so that interests me. I do like, you know, I'm not, the thing that I, I always have had an easier time saying what I'm not into. And that's also an Ira thing. He's like, if you can't figure out what you really want to do, you can totally, totally figure out what you don't want to do.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And I know that I don't want to do true crime. I don't want to talk exclusively about cults, although I have a few times. And this season we did get into one of these AA cults.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
It's called Midtown. It's kind of your typical sex cult.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Yeah, by a bunch of normal people sitting in a room and being like, that's weird.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Well, male trolls ruin the internet. Yeah. Ja, aber wir, you know, just engaging and being like, ugh, this is not, we don't want here.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
But, no, but the cult thing, there are so many. Ja, klar. Mostly because of my vagina and my boobs. Like we can't sell ads on a podcast hosted by a woman. Oh really? Not a good podcast.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ja, genau. Und ich mache das jedes Mal. Und deshalb muss ich aus diesem Habit raus. Aber dieses neue Format für den Show ist wirklich ein Experiment. Kann ich nur mich selbst sein und meine Fähigkeiten verwenden und gut vermischen und editieren und mit Leuten sprechen?
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
This is kind of like a character study of the people that start and promote MLM. So it's a lot about like what kind of a person wants to start MLM.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Well, I'm glad you brought it to me. Yeah, you're going to like it, I think.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And then there's a lot of weird stuff about my life and childhood and everything.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ja, es ist ein bisschen furchtbar manchmal. Es ist furchtbar. Look, I'm lonely.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And they were fine with that, so I'll. Sure. But I also get like so much hate and stuff, which is just funny. The hate that chicks get on.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ich meine, was ist das? Ich denke, es ist meistens Männer. Ich habe eine Tochter und sie war klein. Und das kam eigentlich aus den Mäusen ein paar Leute, die du kennst. Ja. Wenn mein Kind in den Kopf geklopft wird von einem riesigen John Deere-Toy von einem kleinen Jungen. Ja. Und die Väter würden sagen, Jungs werden Jungs sein. Das kinderliche Ding. Viele Jungs werden Jungs sein. Ja.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And she's not like wearing a dress or anything. She's good at soccer. But parents are still doing that to these little ones. I mean, they're like eight years old and they're being taught by their moms and dads that like, well, what are we going to do? And they put their hands up like, they're just probably going to rape somebody.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
But you're saying the word problems as if everyone agrees on what those problems are.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Some people think that. Yeah. I had my girlfriend in high school, like my literal girlfriend in high school. Her father wrote a book when we were in high school called The Natural History of Rape.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Yeah, and like to confront that at 16 years old, that like this is what this person is actually really interested in, is like, how does it just keep happening?
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
You know, and like, what can we do about it? Nothing. It's just nature.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And any initiatives like DEI to change any of this stuff.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Civilization. Right, but civilization was also built on that sort of thing.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ich habe es hier in Glendale. Ich habe es hier in Glendale. Ich habe ein paar Werte für das gewonnen. Ich habe mit den Royals gearbeitet. Wir können dazu sprechen. Du hast es gemacht? Ich bin die einzige Person, es gab einen letzten Artikel über sie, und ich war die einzige Person, die sagte, sie sind in Ordnung. Ja. Was auch immer. Richtig. Und es ging auf die Daily Mail. Ja.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ich dachte, was ist mit dieser Frau? Richtig. Warum sieht sie nicht alle Probleme? Und ich dachte, sie sind reiche Leute, die in Montecito leben. Ja. Was erwartest du von ihnen?
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Sie waren perfekt schön. Sie ist sehr schmerzhaft. Sie ist so wunderschön. Und du hast ihr Show produziert?
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
I was working there before they were figuring out what to do before they left Netflix. He had so many good ideas.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
They had another team and then that team couldn't get anything done and then they were like, we need to bring in the big guns.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
It was so sweet. They're so hot for each other, it's crazy. Like, they're like, you know when you see a couple next to each other and they're trying to be composed because there's a stranger in the room or whatever? Yeah. Oh, wirklich? Ja. Ja.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
What did you do? They all had dead moms. Yeah. And I said, well, maybe it's because they all have dead moms. And then I was like... Oops. Oh, no, I forgot. You're also... Someone with a dead mom. He was totally gracious about it. Yeah, he's very charming. He's a complete weirdo who is, you know, who is a prince and also who, you know, the monarchy believes that they were like anointed by God.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
So to grow up as a little cute little boy with a dead mom.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
And then be the most famous person or one of the three most famous people.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ich erinnere mich an das Gebäude in einem Mall in Tokio. Live auf ein paar... Warum warst du da?
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Mein Vaters bester Freund lebte dort. In Tokio? Und wir gingen dort besuchen.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Ich war da ein paar Mal, aber das war mein erstes Mal.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
We went on a book tour and we recorded an episode in every city and put that out.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
Wonderful, like great numbers and we won a bunch of awards and stuff. Oh, oh, but my most, okay, so I'm back doing The Dream again, which is like a whole story. That's my show. But most recently before The Dream relaunched, we paired up with Bradley Cooper's production company, Leah Pictures, and we had signed on to produce Someone else's show and then they dropped out at the last minute.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
But I was like, we already signed the contract and I need money. So how am I going to save this? And I pulled this idea out of my ass and they went for it. He was like, yeah, that sounds great. It is a non-narrated, fully documentary-style show where we feature one woman kind of audio diary style each episode.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
That's it, yeah. And it's like all kinds of weird ladies that I love. And it's called Finally, a show about women that isn't just a thinly veiled aspirational nightmare.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
I'm not worried about that. I was just happy that they let us get away with it.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
I don't know how to do anything else, Mark. That's not true. I know how to do a lot of stuff. But this is what I feel. Are you feeling... Wenn es um Podcasting geht, fühle ich mich wie ein Harpsichord-Player, während die Pianos rausgingen.
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
Episode 1626 - Jane Marie
I get that. I've spent 25 years honing this skill. Broadcast. Documentary audio projects. And now everyone has these pianos. And I'm so grateful anytime someone lets me still make my weird harpsichord music.