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WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

Episode 1626 - Jane Marie

Mon, 17 Mar 2025

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Jane Marie’s early life in Michigan didn’t necessarily put her on the glide path to the future world of podcasting, but an internship at This American Life gave her a crash course in the type of journalism that allowed her to create The Dream podcast. Jane talks with Marc about the subject matter of The Dream’s past seasons, including pyramid schemes, the wellness industry, and life coaching, and why these topics are truly representative of modern day America.  Sign up here for WTF+ to get the full show archives and weekly bonus material! https://plus.acast.com/s/wtf-with-marc-maron-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Chapter 1: What is the background of Jane Marie?

2.346 - 24.201 Unknown Speaker

Hi, Backmarket hier. Die mit der erneuerten Technik, die dich weniger kostet. Wie dieses Handy. Es kann alles, was Handys halt können. Nicht nur diesen nervigen Spam-Anruf ignorieren. Es kann texten, anrufen, chatten, snoozen, liken, entliken. Einfach alles, was ein brandneues Handy kann. Aber das hier ist deutlich günstiger. Denn es ist nicht neu. Es ist von Profis auf Herz und Nieren geprüft.

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24.241 - 32.106 Unknown Speaker

Fitter Akku und 12 Monate Garantie inklusive. Es ist professionell erneuert. Nein, nicht schon wieder. Gönn dir ein Downgrade. Backmarket.

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33.507 - 43.231 Unknown Speaker

Weißt du noch, als wir den schönsten Sonnenaufgang an diesem einsamen Strand erlebt haben? Nachdem wir spontan ein Zimmer am Meer gebucht hatten? Easy bezahlt mit der Sparkassen-Card.

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43.251 - 50.614 Unknown Speaker

Für dich am Start, die neue Sparkassen-Card. Eine für alles, egal was du vorhast. Mehr auf sparkasse.de, weil's um mehr als Geld geht.

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54.896 - 56.377 Unknown Speaker

Lock the gate! Lock the gate!

64.478 - 89.748 Marc Maron

All right, let's do this. How are you, what the fuckers? What the fuck, buddies? What the fuck, Knicks? What's happening? I'm Marc Maron. This is my podcast. Welcome to it. How's it going? What's happening? Are you all right? I hope you're holding up. I got nothing but worry, man. I have nothing but worry in my head about all things. And, you know, I'm very tired of this idea of Vielen Dank.

108.536 - 134.431 Marc Maron

That that concern and empathy and the panic ensuing from the situation is somehow mentally inappropriate. Go fuck yourself if you think that. Hold on to your brain. It's not Trump derangement syndrome. It's the normal reaction to the collapse of everything we know and understand. And look, you know, you're up against people that really...

135.291 - 159.089 Marc Maron

Believe in this process, but just know that your heart's in the right place. Can you dig it? Okay. Durham, North Carolina. I'll be at the Carolina Theater of Durham on Friday, March 21st. Charlotte, North Carolina. I'm at the Knight Theater on Saturday, March 22nd. And I'll be in Charleston, South Carolina at the Charleston Music Hall on Sunday, March 23rd. Then Skokie, Illinois.

159.149 - 177.341 Marc Maron

I'm coming to the North Shore Center for the Performing Arts on Friday, March 28th. And Joliet, Illinois. I'm at the Rialto Square Theater on Saturday, March 29th. Then I'm coming to Michigan, Toronto, Vermont, New Hampshire. And tickets are now available for my special taping in Brooklyn, New York at the Bam Harvey Theater on May 10th.

Chapter 2: What is The Dream podcast about?

1744.523 - 1753.29 Jane Marie

Yeah, like that kind of level. And again, my dad, like, we hung out. We went to raves in Detroit together.

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1753.31 - 1754.391 Marc Maron

That's just crazy.

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1754.491 - 1755.112 Jane Marie

It is crazy.

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1755.132 - 1755.773 Marc Maron

I mean, I guess it's fun.

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1755.793 - 1760.177 Jane Marie

Well, until I got caught with cocaine and then he was like, maybe the rave thing isn't the best.

1760.257 - 1763.149 Marc Maron

Yeah. So is that how you rebelled? You just got all fucked up?

1763.189 - 1766.47 Jane Marie

I actually moved out when I was 16 in Ann Arbor.

1766.49 - 1770.252 Marc Maron

Because it was too boundaryless and fucked up?

1770.272 - 1839.113 Jane Marie

I lived with my mom at the time and it was... I really felt like... I did have this thing as a girl and like... How do I say this? I was definitely sexualized by... Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. So yeah, I moved out at 16. But then I got into drugs, which was a blast. Yeah. But only for like a year. Yeah. And I had to get rescued.

Chapter 3: How did Jane Marie get into podcasting?

1840.294 - 1840.934 Jane Marie

By my dad.

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1841.035 - 1844.096 Marc Maron

Oh, really? Yeah. Which drugs?

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1844.136 - 1844.757 Jane Marie

Mostly cocaine.

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1844.837 - 1848.839 Marc Maron

Yeah, yeah. So you were up a lot.

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1848.859 - 1852.661 Jane Marie

Running around. Getting like staph infections is basically what was happening.

1853.473 - 1854.934 Marc Maron

So not a great party.

1855.194 - 1863.041 Jane Marie

Not a great party. Letting older men like bick my head. It was raving in Detroit in the early 90s.

1863.061 - 1865.062 Marc Maron

So the dentist came to the rescue?

1865.102 - 1874.65 Jane Marie

Dentist came to the rescue, took me home, said I have three rules. No boys overnight, call me every three days. And I forget what the third one was. Oh, no drugs in the house.

Chapter 4: What challenges has Jane faced in her career?

Chapter 5: What are Jane's thoughts on the wellness industry?

1958.309 - 1982.721 Jane Marie

Ja, Pro Tools ist passiert. Und ich bin zu einer Konvention gegangen und habe mit den Leuten von Pro Tools getroffen. Und es war so, können wir ein System für unsere Schule haben? Und sie sagten, ja. Also habe ich Pro Tools gelernt. And then one day I was driving home from Chicago to Michigan and I heard this radio story about a guy who was... A tequila man, did you ever?

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1982.841 - 1986.902 Marc Maron

Is it one of Iris? It's John Hodgman. It's Hodgman, okay, tequila man?

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1986.942 - 1991.763 Jane Marie

Yeah, he was like friends from college with this guy that became a tequila mascot.

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1991.803 - 1992.863 Marc Maron

I don't know that one, yeah.

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1992.903 - 1999.105 Jane Marie

And like traveled around letting people like take shots off of his body and stuff and he was like hired by resorts to be like the tequila man.

1999.165 - 1999.265 Marc Maron

Sure.

2000.165 - 2001.686 Jane Marie

Aber ich habe dieses Show noch nie gehört.

2001.707 - 2009.434 Marc Maron

Ich kannte einen Mann, der ein Tanzmann war, aber er machte kein Leben daran. Er war nur ein lokaler Charakter, der auf Punk-Shows und Tanz zeigte.

2009.474 - 2010.655 Jane Marie

Gut für alle, die um ihn herum waren.

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