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Jane Ward

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
101 total appearances

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Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

Oh, absolutely.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

I think it's changing.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

I mean, even subjecting heterosexuality to analysis is a big change.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

Certainly, to have such widespread attention be paid to what's troubling about heterosexuality or to the way that heterosexuality is failing people is a huge transformation.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

In fact, I've actually been really kind of surprised by how quickly these sorts of conversations about heteropessimism, a tragedy of heterosexuality, really penetrated the culture.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

And I think that's thanks to social media in many ways.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

And I think there's still tremendous hunger for conversations about, you know, what are we going to do with heterosexuality because it isn't working?

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

So heteropessimism is not my concept.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

Asa Saracen coined that term in an essay in 2019, and it's such a useful term.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

And basically what they were getting at was the way that many straight people performatively express their embarrassment, their dissatisfaction, their resignation about heterosexuality.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

They pretty much do this thing where they're fully into you and then they pull back.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

And then also, none of them can communicate for shit, let alone even say, I'm sorry.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

And what Saracen says is, you know, it's performative, not in that it's, like, fake.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

It's performative in that that's all it does.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

It's just an expression.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

These are not people who are actually going to stop being straight because of it.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

And so it's very popular on social media, for instance, for, you know, young people to talk about like, oh God, I wish I wasn't, you know, I wish I wasn't straight.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

This really is, you know, kind of out there in the atmosphere and it's such a useful concept that I think is part of what people are thinking about on TikTok that then is like a building block for Shante's article.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

I think these are broad trends, and it makes sense that we see people doing things that seem quite different on the political spectrum from women saying having a boyfriend or a husband is embarrassing to women who want to be trad wives.

Today, Explained
Are boyfriends embarrassing?

I mean, I think, you know, not to get, like, too theoretical, but... Hit us with it.