Janet Egan

I think one thing that is important here as well is I think broader international buy-in matters.

Yes, the US and China are the two AI superpowers of the world and they're the ones whose participation is really critical.

But I think the diplomatic aspect of external experts also verifying and attesting that, hey, this is pretty good from a standpoint of verification, I think is really important.

And I'll give an example.

So in 2020, and this has all been publicly reported, that Australia-China relations were pretty low after Australia called for an inquiry into the origins of COVID-19.

And so China had reached for the classic economic coercion toolkit.

And so it froze out a long list of Australian exports.

like timber, beef, lobster, all saying that there were technical reasons for this.

So live lobsters, for example, were left to rot at the ports because they were waiting on custom checks because they had trace elements of metals and minerals.

That was a food safety issue.

So Australia came out on the record and said, hey, we've tested this.

There aren't problems here.

There's nothing to see.

But it just became a he said, she said, like testing it yourself doesn't really shift the dial.

And the real resilience comes from when there's independent, internationally backed regimes here, where it's much harder for like a single state to write its own truth that serves its own interests.

So from my perspective, I think it's really important to keep advancing the science within US actors, between the US and China.

But I'm really excited about initiatives that bring in a broader set of stakeholders and experts that have less conflicted interests and can't be seen as, you know, the US trying to pull one over on China or China trying to pull one over in the US.

There's some real low-hanging fruit here.

Location verification on chips is something that is easy to do.

NVIDIA already has solutions for it.