Jared Isaacman

But you go farther out there, especially in the 1,000-kilometer regimes, you've got micrometeoroids and orbital debris, paint chips that fall off old satellites, or worse, satellites that were blown up in ASAT tests will create this, like, just debris field, and it's flying around at 8 kilometers a second.

So you have debris, you have more radiation, which avionics don't like.

Human bodies don't necessarily like it either.

And then in order to come home, you have to put that much more energy to go farther out, which means you have to take that energy to come back.

So he's like, we got to go farther out there if we're going to go to the moon and Mars.

We're going to need spacesuits.

He's like, NASA has been using the same spacesuits for 40 years.

They literally cost billions of dollars.

I mean, it's hundreds of millions a year and just upkeep on those suits every year.

And they leak.

You know, there's a situation on the space station where, you know, you had an astronaut where their helmet was filling with water from their liquid cooling suit.

I mean, like totally scary stuff.

So he's like, we're going to need to build suits for thousands of people.

And no one's done it in decades.

So we got to do that.

And we're going to need to test new forms of communication because, you know, our various, you know, legacy infrastructure of ground stations and TDRS satellites are 40 years old.

And I was like, I'm totally in on this.

And Kid Poteet, who you interviewed, he was too.

He was the mission director on Inspiration4 and obviously flew with me on the last one.

We were totally sold on the idea of a developmental program and