The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?
08 Sep 2025
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Jared Isaacman, welcome to the show.
Thanks for having me.
Man, I've been excited about this one.
Honored to be here, but honestly, looking around the room, don't feel very worthy, but it's great to be here and chatting with you.
Oh, man, a lot of people think that, but... you're perfect for this show. So I've been, I've been following you. I was really excited about the NASA thing. And then, you know, that got pulled and we'll talk about that soon in the interview. But I, I, I, I appreciate the humility, but you very much, um, I love having you here and it's an honor to have you here. So thank you for making the time.
Thank you. Thanks for having me. It's a real pleasure to meet you, by the way. You too. You're an American hero.
Thank you. You too. All right. Everybody starts off with an introduction. So here we go. Jared Isaacman, billionaire, entrepreneur, adventurer, and commercial astronaut. CEO of Shift4 Payments, a company you started when you were just 16 years old and now a global leader in payments. Founder of Dracon International, world's largest private tactical fighter fleet for military training.
Record-setting pilot with over 7,800 hours in a jet aircraft, that's almost one full year in flight, commanded Inspiration4 in 2021, the first all-civilian spaceflight, orbited the Earth for three days. Then you led the farthest mission into space since the last Apollo mission on Polaris Dawn in 2024, where you conducted the first commercial spacewalk.
You were nominated to be the NASA administrator until pulled just days before the boat. You're a husband and proud father of two children. and uh our friend scott boutique uh connected us and um he just had really good stuff to say about you and and uh so like i said i'm really excited about this well i have nothing but great things to say about kid so awesome awesome human but uh
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