Jared Kushner

I hope you get the opportunity to do it because I think it's a conversation that will only help the world hopefully find a pathway forward.

And understanding the DNA of countries.

It was one of the most phenomenal books, and I just found it on Amazon randomly, but I loved every minute of it.

The chapter on America is also incredible, going through the evolution of how we became the country we are, the different acquisitions, the different changes, why we have all these geographic advantages.

And it's an unbelievable book for anyone who's interested in geopolitics.

So during the transition, President Trump took a call from the head of Taiwan, and that sent the Chinese into a real tailspin.

And he didn't do it, I think, to be provocative to them as much as just as a businessman, he felt you answer your call.

Somebody wants to speak to you, you speak to him like you.

You want to have conversations, hear their point of view.

But it was taken as a very big insult, and it was against tradition and norm.

And so that was something that set us off in a wrong direction.

My view at the time was that we are kind of entering a G2 world, whether people want to admit it or not, and that a lot of these countries in what I call the middle market countries were basically playing – this one, China, was being aggressive with their one belt, one road.

They were basically playing U.S.

and China against each other.

And I thought that by the two leaders coming together, there were some things they wouldn't agree on, but there was a lot that they probably could agree on, which could lead to resolutions to a lot of issues in the world.

That was my most optimistic view.

my most more pragmatic view was that President Trump had very big issues on trade that he wanted to get to with China.

You know, he felt like China, their trade practices were unfair.

They weren't following all the global rules of trade.

He was a little bit nervous that they would be provocative with Taiwan.