Jared Kushner

It's hard.

It is.

But I'll give you, again, an optimistic side of it is that what you're seeing now with social media is I do think with what's happening at X, there is now more of a reversion towards more egalitarian, right?

And egalitarianism of information.

And so for many years, the media publications were the gatekeepers.

And then you had these social media companies that grew, they became so powerful, but then they were tilting the scales.

Why they were doing it, we can go through long explanations for that.

But if there truly is a real forum and a democratization of information, then you would think that the marketplace of ideas would surface the real ones and discredit the non-real ones.

And I think that as a society, we're starting to kind of come to grips with the fact that the power...

dynamic is changing and that some of these institutions that we used to have a lot of faith in don't deserve our faith.

And some of them will actually reform and maybe re-earn our faith.

So I think that there could be an optimistic tone.

Again, the years of Trump, I think that he was an outsider and he represented something that was existential to the system.

You think about for the 30 years before, you were either part of the Clinton dynasty or the Bush dynasty.

I think a lot of people in the country felt like that whole class, whether you're wearing a red shirt or a blue shirt, wasn't representing them.

And Trump represented a true outsider to that system.

And I do think that as he went in there, there was a lot of norms that were broken to try to stop him from changing the traditional power structure.

So I think that we're at a time where maybe there will be an optimistic outlook.

breakthrough where you'll have institutions that will allow for a lot more transparency into what truth really is.

So for the listeners, Mohammed bin Salman is now the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.