Jared Kushner

And so if you can get that whole set, the potential for it is unbelievable.

I do think that that's his ultimate vision is to become a really strong country economically and then to become a place where you could be funding advancements in science, advancements in humanity, advancements in artificial intelligence, and think about ways to be a positive influence in the world.

So what he said to me was no different than what he ultimately said on 60 Minutes, which was, as somebody helping lead this country, I bear responsibility.

And I'm going to make sure that those who are involved are brought to justice.

And I'm going to make sure that we put in place reforms to make sure things like this don't happen again.

It was a horrible situation that occurred.

What I saw from him after that was just a doubling and a tripling down on the positive things he was doing, figuring out ways to kind of continue to modernize his society, build opportunity in the kingdom, and to continue to be a better ally to all the different countries that wanted to be aligned with them.

Yeah, so it definitely created massive tension and it became a very high profile action that actually overshadowed a lot of the good work that was being done in the region and a lot of the progress we were making.

But when you think about this or you think about the other issues that we've gone through today,

I think the general framework that I always try to approach things with is you can't change what happened yesterday.

You can only learn from it, and then you can change how you deal with tomorrow.

And when I think about the people in power, what do I hope that they're spending their time focused on?

Two basic things.

Number one is how do I create safety and security for my people and for the world?

And then how do I give people the opportunity to live a better life?

And so when things like this happen, obviously, you know, there are certain reactions that are appropriate.

But ultimately, you have to think through how do you not allow the paradigm that you're creating in the world to lead to worse outcomes?

than would happen otherwise.

And so when I would think about foreign policy in general, one of the differences between foreign policy and business is that in business, the conclusion of a problem set, you finish a deal, you either have, you know, a company or a property, or if you sell it, you have, you know, less to do and more capital, hopefully if it's successful, right?

In a political deal,