Jared Kushner

It's always about paradigms.

So the end of a problem set is always the beginning of a new paradigm.

And you're always thinking through how do you create an environment that leads to hopefully the best amount of positive outcomes that could occur versus creating a paradigm that will lead to negative outcomes.

So bad things happen a lot in the world.

And you have to make sure that when those happen, people are held accountable for it.

But you also don't want to make sure that in the process of making sure that there's accountability for these actions, you don't set a lot of progress that the world is making back that will lead to worse off situation for many more people.

If I had to give you the most simple answer, I would say that it's structural.

And if you go back to the incentive structure of different leaders, this whole peace process between Israel and the Palestinians, and again, I've gotten criticized for saying this, but it's what I believe, so I'm going to say it, is that

the incentive structure was all wrong.

And when I went before the United Nations Security Council to discuss the peace plan that I proposed, which again, was more of an operational plan and it was a pragmatic plan.

It was over 180 pages in detail.

In politics, people don't like putting forward detail because it just gives a lot of places for you to get criticized on.

Nobody actually criticized the detail of my plan.

They just criticized...

the fact that it was coming from us and didn't want to debate the merits of the operational pieces of it.

So I created a slide where I showed from the Oslo Accords till the day I was there, all the different peace discussions.

I put a dove in the slide for those.

And then I put a tank for every time there was a war, because there was always skirmishes between Hamas and Hezbollah and the Palestinians.

And then I showed two lines and they both went from the bottom of the page all the way up like this.

One of the lines was Israeli settlements.