Jared Santo

I mean, obviously, they put you through turmoil and terrible things.

I had a nowhere near as serious experience.

And yet relatable diagnosis with my knee when I was told that I had torn my ACL and I would never play basketball again by a physician's assistant.

And then the actual knee doctor came in.

He's like, no, you're good.

He's like, she's wrong.

I'm shortening the story.

But I had like 15 minutes of like, oh, I love basketball.

Like my whole life changes in small ways.

Yours obviously in a huge way.

But then him being like, no, she didn't understand this thing and she messed up and it's not as bad as she thought it was.

So how many companies are you currently involved in today and here in December?

And what made you want to get into open source agentic coding when you have all these medical companies, you've got to get a lot of stuff going on, but you want to work on this?

Why do you want to work on this particular problem?

Are you deploying a similar playbook that you deployed with GitLab back in the day?

Right.

So what's the open core aspect with Kilo?

Yeah, where are the lines drawn?

Like, what are you thinking?

That makes total sense.