Jared Santo

and yet it seems like we all end up making things that are too complicated anyways right like nobody's like i'm gonna make a bunch of spaghetti code and it's gonna be a terrible mess four years from now and yet we end up there and so do you have did people come up with ways that you could actually like deploy a strategy or a tactic towards simplicity yeah so i i would not actually agree that that we we all say we like simplicity this is true

and yet it seems like we all end up making things that are too complicated anyways right like nobody's like i'm gonna make a bunch of spaghetti code and it's gonna be a terrible mess four years from now and yet we end up there and so do you have did people come up with ways that you could actually like deploy a strategy or a tactic towards simplicity yeah so i i would not actually agree that that we we all say we like simplicity this is true

Because maybe that demonstrates proficiency.

Because maybe that demonstrates proficiency.

They've been burnt before.

They've been burnt before.

Right.

Right.

And that goes back to your churn mention as well. Like if you're only going to work somewhere for 12 to 18 months, unlikely that you're even going to deal with the mess that you're creating because you moved on to the next organization by the time the mess rears its ugly head. And so you actually may be thinking that you didn't make a mess because you're gone.

And that goes back to your churn mention as well. Like if you're only going to work somewhere for 12 to 18 months, unlikely that you're even going to deal with the mess that you're creating because you moved on to the next organization by the time the mess rears its ugly head. And so you actually may be thinking that you didn't make a mess because you're gone.

Right. Yeah, Agni just rears its ugly head. So I've had this, have you had this before, Barrett, where it's like, I want to create a simple solution. I go ahead and do that. I put it out in the world, and it's too simple because the world's actually more complicated than my software will handle.

Right. Yeah, Agni just rears its ugly head. So I've had this, have you had this before, Barrett, where it's like, I want to create a simple solution. I go ahead and do that. I put it out in the world, and it's too simple because the world's actually more complicated than my software will handle.

And then as it kind of grows in order to handle these different edge or corner cases that I didn't consider when I was building Simply, it ends up all hairy at the end because it's like, well, it has to deal with 17 different things that might happen. And it's like, well, was there ever a simple thing that would have solved this? The real world is complicated sometimes.

And then as it kind of grows in order to handle these different edge or corner cases that I didn't consider when I was building Simply, it ends up all hairy at the end because it's like, well, it has to deal with 17 different things that might happen. And it's like, well, was there ever a simple thing that would have solved this? The real world is complicated sometimes.

And then I throw up my hands and think, I don't know. How am I actually going to do this?

And then I throw up my hands and think, I don't know. How am I actually going to do this?

Did this turn into a business? Like was this making money at the time?

Did this turn into a business? Like was this making money at the time?

So were there pressures on the money side to like not do that?

So were there pressures on the money side to like not do that?