Jared Smith

Yeah.

And you almost need like a nonprofit established for it, which is a whole other problem, right?

Yeah, now you're like basically taking on a second job.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not easy.

Not easy.

So thank an organizer out there, y'all, when you go to your events.

Yeah, for sure.

Definitely thank an organizer because no one's getting rich off these things.

So they're doing it for the love lots of times.

They have ulterior motives, but they're usually straightforward.

And it's still worth thanking them as long as they're doing it on the up and up.

Just as maybe a slight mention to that, I was in the GopherCon channel in the Gopher Slack.

And I guess there was some concern around timing, you know, because like people wanted a certain time of year and it's kind of hard to do that.

Yeah, I know it's moved.

It's like August now or in the winter.

They've had to move it to different locations and move it to different timing.

I just saw like just a drive-by look.

Heather Sullivan, who runs that conference along with, I believe, Brian and Eric, I don't know what the exact structure is anymore, but she was saying it loses money.