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I want to thank all the listeners. I don't know why you're so tiny But you helped me make this project By tapping things in on your tiny keyboard Oh baby, one day you'll be big Thank you for my award Thank you for my award Thank you for my lovely medal

And they were like, no, no, no.

And they were like, no, no, no.

Well, thank you for joining us. I hope you had a good time, baby, because I know that I did. I had a lovely time. Now it's time to go and get some R&R Take it down, have a relax and play some Super Mario If you got an ancient floppy disk on you, yeah Then you'll be fine when nuclear war breaks out And if you wanna know how

Well, thank you for joining us. I hope you had a good time, baby, because I know that I did. I had a lovely time. Now it's time to go and get some R&R Take it down, have a relax and play some Super Mario If you got an ancient floppy disk on you, yeah Then you'll be fine when nuclear war breaks out And if you wanna know how

To make it out alive I suggest you get the slime mold to show you how This, this is a family show Yeah, but how many kids listen, I don't know Probably not that many Not yet anyway, not yet anyway Now we've had a good time, yeah We're going for some high stakes after this

To make it out alive I suggest you get the slime mold to show you how This, this is a family show Yeah, but how many kids listen, I don't know Probably not that many Not yet anyway, not yet anyway Now we've had a good time, yeah We're going for some high stakes after this

I like high stakes This is my strong hand, take it please Take my strong hand And I'll take you to CERN And we'll discern if they've broken the universe And next time we'll see you on the changelogging friends This is the end And now for some loopback white noise

I like high stakes This is my strong hand, take it please Take my strong hand And I'll take you to CERN And we'll discern if they've broken the universe And next time we'll see you on the changelogging friends This is the end And now for some loopback white noise

Don't call me out on it. Oh, shoot.

Don't call me out on it. Oh, shoot.

So we are here with Rachel Plotnick, an associate professor of cinema and media studies. Don't get us talking about movies. At Indiana University and the author of a book called Power Button, A History of Pleasure, Panic, and the Politics of Pushing. Rachel, we are here to talk buttons with you. Welcome.

So we are here with Rachel Plotnick, an associate professor of cinema and media studies. Don't get us talking about movies. At Indiana University and the author of a book called Power Button, A History of Pleasure, Panic, and the Politics of Pushing. Rachel, we are here to talk buttons with you. Welcome.

Happy to have you. I found you by way of an IEEE Spectrum article about touchscreens. They're going out tactile controls are coming back. The rebuttonization expertise of yours is in demand. How did we get here? It was like buttons were all we had. And then we went no buttons. And now it's like, Hey, buttons might be cool.

Happy to have you. I found you by way of an IEEE Spectrum article about touchscreens. They're going out tactile controls are coming back. The rebuttonization expertise of yours is in demand. How did we get here? It was like buttons were all we had. And then we went no buttons. And now it's like, Hey, buttons might be cool.

I think that pendulum swing that you're describing is finds its way into like all kinds of stuff that we do. And it's like new technology or new shiny thing. Let's use it everywhere. Let's throw out the old and let's only do the new. It's going to fix everything.

I think that pendulum swing that you're describing is finds its way into like all kinds of stuff that we do. And it's like new technology or new shiny thing. Let's use it everywhere. Let's throw out the old and let's only do the new. It's going to fix everything.

And then we go that route a little while and start to see the cracks or the misapplications where it's like, actually it's not so great in this particular. And we learn and we realize, you know, that broad brush, uh, could be more precise. But then sometimes we pendulum swing back the other way and throw out the new for the old. But eventually I think we hone in on what is practical and useful.

And then we go that route a little while and start to see the cracks or the misapplications where it's like, actually it's not so great in this particular. And we learn and we realize, you know, that broad brush, uh, could be more precise. But then sometimes we pendulum swing back the other way and throw out the new for the old. But eventually I think we hone in on what is practical and useful.

And not just in push buttons, but in your book, you talk about kind of the history, right? Even of the button and knobs. and switches can you give us you know not the whole history but maybe a primer for all of human history for us pushing buttons i assume it started somewhere around the industrial revolution or i don't know when we had things that could be on the other side of a button