Jasmine Sun

shows the sort of more radical side of this Silicon Valley biohacking thinking where it crosses over to not just let me use this technology as a tool, but I am going to merge with the machine and together we are going to become more than human, right?

And so I think especially with AI also taking over Silicon Valley and the world, people are sort of thinking

Maybe it is possible to build technologies that are smarter than we are, that are more powerful than we are.

And I think that has increased interest in these biohacking trends as well.

Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely somewhat of two minds about it because I don't want to romanticize friction for its own sake.

Like, you know, I'm nearsighted.

I have contact lenses.

I'm imagining a world before my contact lenses when I couldn't see anything.

And people might just say, you know, the friction of having to get really close to that sign to see it, you know?

So I am very grateful for many of the medical technologies that have improved my life.

But I do think that there is a question of what are you trading off?

We can talk about a Zempik, right?

If you think that a Zempik is a substitute for, say, having a movement practice in your life, a substitute for going on runs with your friends or joining a sports team or something, what are you trading off there, right?

Because it's not actually a one-to-one substitute.

And when you give up the friction of, say,

joining a sports team, you're also giving up the social benefits.

You're giving up maybe some vitamin D, the muscle growth, the mobility exercises that you're doing.

So I think sometimes when people are choosing technological shortcuts to reduce friction, they're also missing out on a lot of the benefits that the more frictionful

activity might give them.

And so I think that's the question that I prompt people to think about is not just like, you know, it's sometimes you do want to take the shortcut, like, like Karen said, but what are you actually giving up when you do that?