Jasmine Sun

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Bankless · Will AI Populism Decide the 2028 Election? | Jasmine Sun · 13 May 2026 podcast

It's not like once you satisfy one desire, they won't want a new thing.

And we see this where, you know, there are now yoga studios and maybe a hundred years ago, we weren't spending our money on yoga studios or something like this.

And I think in general, historically, this has been a really good argument and it has held true through history.

The thing that I think Daria would say as to, like, why would AI be different is that both of those arguments, Jevon's paradox and lump of labor, assume that more labor equals more humans.

So what they're saying is that demand is unlimited and that the amount of labor to do in the economy will always go up.

But they also assume that there is an inherent link between productivity and labor and humans, right?

Whereas the thing that AI promises to do is particularly AGI, like fully human replacing AI, is that you can have labor without having humans.

So you can produce software without having humans.

So yes, maybe demand for software goes up, but AIs are making all the software.

Yeah, maybe demand for therapists goes up, but AIs can do the therapy.

Lots of people are already using AI for therapy.

And so even though we're not yet in that world, because AI is very jagged, it can't do everything yet.

And so humans remain complements to AI.

Right now, humans are augmented by AI.

For a lot of things like radiology, you need both a human and an AI together.

And so if demand goes up, you still need human labor.

AI is generalizing really fast.

It's improving really fast.

And Dario believes that in the next two, three years, we're going to get AI that can produce infinite amounts of software therapy or whatever it is without the requirement of having any humans.

And so let's take your software engineer example.

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