Jason Bailey

No, you're right.

You're right.

I was underselling it.

I mean, for me, it was kind of a strange experience because I was about six years old.

I had chicken pox and one of my cousins was like ordered to entertain me.

So I'm sitting there scratching itchy in bed and he comes over and brings Super Nintendo and Super Mario World and I'm watching this.

moving cartoon and i i mean i obviously still remember it clear as day um i think for me it was so important you know now my main job here at the new york times is covering the art world fine art painting sculpture blah blah blah um but video games are really my first interaction with a quote-unquote art form and i think that stuck with me and sort of influenced me throughout my life

Did you two have chickenpox?

So building a virtual village with animals is kind of the perfect option.

I like how your description started with you describing yourself as, like, a hundred-year-old man, which is not true.

You know, I...

I love a story.

I love something that's going to try and make me cry or that's very funny or it's taking a risk.

So I guess you could call it like an artsy game.

But, you know, I like something that I can sink my teeth into, like a good novel.

So oftentimes these are called RPGs or role-playing games.

I've gravitated towards those a lot, but I like a platformer.

I like something that's fun and really gamey, like...

Mario is a platformer.

The man jumps.