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Jason Calacanis

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

Well, last year it did 18, $19 billion.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

It'll probably do 25 to 30 this year.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

Okay, so I'm buying this thing

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

at a fairly costly premium, right?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

So what am I buying?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

Well, I'm buying probably the most important internet infrastructure project that's happened since the internet itself, that's going to scale to hundreds of millions of users.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

And the reason that's going to scale to hundreds of millions of users is, it's just very useful, and it's just going to become cheaper and cheaper and cheaper.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

So that's number one, I'm buying a delivery infrastructure.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

But I think over time,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

GDP plus 10, GDP plus 15, kind of a grower.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

So good business, valuable business, but it's the underlying platform that allows everything else to happen.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

And then I'm buying an AI business, which will be at the top level, the apps, but at the bottom layer, all the compute capability.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

And I think when you scale that out, like, why is Colossus so valuable to anthropic?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

Maybe that's like a good question to ask.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

It's because if you look at who's actually capable of delivering a gigawatt data center, these guys are the closest, like an actual gigawatt.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

And the reason is, is that this stuff is very complicated and very, very hard.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

I think you've probably heard this famous story where Jensen was like, yeah, he was the one that figured out this one thing that nobody else could figure out so that you could strip a bunch of racks and drive a bunch of East West traffic and make the whole thing work together.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

So I suspect what happens is next year, it's probably 40, 45 billion.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

And then the year after that, it probably doubles again.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?

So now I'm buying it at 20 times revenue.