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Jason Calacanis

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

It is hard balancing four interviewers at the same time.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

Did you have an iPhone moment?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

Yeah, when you used it, was it like having an iPhone for the first time?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

Yeah.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

I think this is a very... Job said.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

This story, just going back to the earlier question, so putting on...

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

the CFO hat, help us understand the capital allocation model that you use.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

Because a lot of businesses over the last decade, two decades that have kind of been these outsized returners have found some unique way to deploy capital at a higher ROC than anyone else.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

And then you end up plowing all your capital into that higher ROC bucket.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

What is that for you guys and how do you think about that portfolio approach to having more of these kind of big returner shots and is there an engine where that gets better over time?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

So how are you making the compute need forecast multiple years out?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

Yep.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

accounting for all of the architectural and model advancements that are happening where call it value or utility per unit of power is going up.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

And help us understand how you kind of estimate that given that there's a lot of technology development going on that has a high kind of variance to it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

No model improvement in that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

So that's just the chip.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

So why $122 billion?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

Does it take you to 2031, 2032?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

How do you get the calculus on the capital needs as you do that modeling?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on IPO, AI Rivalries, New Device, and Spending $100B+ on Compute

Maybe even more specific.