Jason Clancy

Yeah.

I'm actually getting a bit emotional.

I know.

But it, it, it...

the problem I had, I suppose, was I actually lived nearest to him.

So I was actually on Tap Farm.

Do you know what I mean?

The others lived across the other side of the city, you know, so, you know, and it was like I was on, well, I was, you know, when you're in school, you have your school timetable.

Yeah.

Like I had my school timetable like everybody else, but he had me on a timetable.

Do you know, so every, say, Tuesday night or Thursday night, I'd have to be

meet him at a certain point.

And then if I didn't turn up, there was then punishments.

I'll just give you an example.

He would take me away into a forest and he did this a good few times.

He'd take me away into a forest and he would handcuff me to a tree.

Now this would be in the middle of winter often.

And he'd leave me there, you know, and like I was 14, you know, and they're handcuffed to a tree deep in a forest, like, and it's just pitch dark.

And you're there trying to say, you know, to yourself, look, don't cry.

Just try and be a man, you know, but you're like, you're only 14.