Jason Feifer

I love that notion of just sticking your nose in it.

I don't know if like enough people have the grit to do that, but that's really what I'm hearing.

Yeah, that's right.

The funny thing is it doesn't take that much grit.

Literally, what was involved in the grit of me trying to write for these publications that didn't take me seriously?

Well, I had to go out and find some stories.

You do some research, talk to some folks, you find some stuff.

You learn how to pitch, go out, buy a book, learn some stuff, figure out some people's email addresses, send it off.

What's the worst that could happen?

I'll tell you.

They ignore you or they say no.

That's the worst.

Can you live?

Can you survive that?

I could.

Turns out it's not that hard.

You get a rejection, you move along.

This is the thing.

I mean, a lot of times we think about how hard this is going to be, what a terrible road this is going to be.

But most of the time, sticking your neck out just means putting in some effort without knowing how it's going to be rewarded and then enduring a lot of non-reward.