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Jason Helfstein

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
263 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

So, I mean, Google basically is seeing the quickest return on investment.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

because they basically have, we'll call it two and I'll call it two and ultimately it'll be three different businesses, right?

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

So you have a search business that relies on compute to do a better job answering your search questions and matching the advertising.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Then you have the Google Cloud business

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

that provides the same compute that businesses can buy, that Amazon, AWS, and Microsoft Azure sell, right?

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

And then the third stool is going to be AI, right?

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

It's going to be Gemini.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

And the idea of it, that's both a model that enterprise customers can use and then ultimately a consumer tool, and we'll talk about it, but they should be in the pole position to have like the best

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

consumer assistant and everyone got all freaked out and excited about Claude bot.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Now we're calling it something else because open claw, open, open claw, right.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Cause we don't want to, you know, we want to, you know, violate a, um, anthropics, uh, a trademark there, but ultimately Google alphabet is in the best position to ultimately provide that to the consumer and, and, and kind of an easy and safe way.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

So, but what that allows them to do is move their compute from their different businesses, right?

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Whereas, you know, effectively Amazon has two businesses, but you can argue like how, you know, compute intensive is retail.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

It used to be very, you know.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

relative it was in the past more but now it's a very small percent of their compute right whereas like meta has one business right but google kind of has two kind of going to three and then potentially going to four right like if you separate gemini between consumer and enterprise and so as a result of that again you saw on a dollar basis um gcp google cloud

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

actually generated the same increase sequential in dollars as Amazon did, which is pretty amazing, and more than Microsoft, right?

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

So you could say that, you know, okay, Google Cloud is now taking share from Microsoft and Cloud.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

On top of that, you had Search Accelerate.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

And then there, you know,

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

what they're spending relative to the free cash they generate is not as impactful.