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Jason Helfstein

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
263 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

They still have positive free cash.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

We're still forecasting in the next few years that they're going to generate positive free cash per share, whereas the other companies are going to eat up all of their free cash to fund.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

So you can make an argument that right now, Google right now is kind of in the best near-term position.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Well, you could argue they've been constantly building, too, right?

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Like, they, you know, again, the biggest rub to Amazon is they just almost โ€“

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

They weren't leaning into building centers fast enough and they kind of got it.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

It just took them a year to kind of fix it.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Whereas Google never really stopped.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

And then again, their business is fungible.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Like they can kind of maybe you move search compute away from countries of the world that maybe don't monetize particularly well because you want to allocate it to Gemini corporate customers who want to pay big bucks right now.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

I mean, look, the search business needs to become the, you know, chatbot agentic business, right?

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Like it's a transition.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

So the idea is that, you know, okay, most of the revenue at 70%, almost all of it is like coming from what we consider traditional search, right?

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

You go to Google, you ask a question, there's a blue line, right?

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

More and more people are then like they're looking at AI overviews.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

You're just starting to see some ads.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

And then over time, and then it's AI mode, right?

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Ultimately, search becomes AI mode.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Right?

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Like at some point you go to Google and literally it is AI mode, right?