Jason Holland

Classic story of getting up in the middle of the night with the old man watching footy, you know, watching the games in South Africa and watching the All Blacks.

And so it's always been ingrained in me.

The old man was big in the footy and took a while for me to really mature and understand that you had to work pretty hard to play footy.

And it wasn't until I went to Munster that I reckon I actually

I started to understand I can be a professional footy player here and actually work hard and lift a bit in the gym and sort of regret that I didn't figure that out a few years earlier.

But then got a call about nine months later to go back and coach.

I definitely don't miss the physical side of the game these days, but I couldn't be out of it.

I couldn't be out of footy.

I can't sit down and watch footy without either thinking about what I'm seeing

Yeah, yeah.

And how teams are trying to play.

Yeah, that's what happens.

Mate, what an opportunity.

It was awesome, mate.

I think at times over the last couple of years I've forgotten what I'm good at.

Yeah, as I say, I've thought about making sure I continue to coach with a smile on my face.

Thanks, mate.

My daughters and my wife would be interested in that.

I'm sure they'd agree.

Yeah, she's a rollercoaster, right?