Jason Holland

And that's why you do your best to help the young fellas these days understand how good they can be if they just apply themselves to a few little things.

I think I was forced to be, you know, we had a schedule.

We were a professional then where, you know, you had your gym windows, you had your, your week was around your footy, you know, when you're mental too and in the neck of your, you're working.

Yeah, you're on the wharf.

Yeah, that's right.

I was on the wharf.

We were in the works in Parmy, in the freezing works.

It's got there too.

Yeah.

Yeah, and it's just the rugby, I suppose what the boys get now when they come into an environment where you're weaker as footy.

Yeah.

So you structure your weaker and how, you know, you're physical and you're footy.

So I suppose that's just what I need.

Oh, I just gradually got better really.

Yeah.

Because there's a fair share of, they've got Irish boys who like to have a bit of fun when you're lifting as well or not quite apply themselves in those early years.

But I suppose we got on a bit of a wave in the months to years through those early 2000s and

Um, and people started to, you know, there was through there that we really took off in that, in that monster side and had a great couple of years.

Awesome.

Awesome.