Jason Holland

Um, initially with Rang and then, and then with Scotty.

So yeah, as I said, I feel like through nobody's fault but my own, I just feel like I just went away from a little of a couple of things that I enjoy and that I'm good at, you know, around just, and nothing really obvious, but just don't feel like coached as well as I could in that first six months.

I don't think so.

I think you've just got to get excited about what your role is.

Yeah, okay.

So I didn't feel that.

It's interesting.

You've got to make sure you're having fun with whatever you're doing.

Yeah.

Through my own fault, you know, it's easy to go into a hotel room on a Thursday night and go into a hotel room and do that for five or six months on tour, you know.

Yeah.

And what we got good at for the second year in there is that we got better at switching off, you know.

Yeah.

Myself and Scotty and Tams especially would –

we make sure we got out, we had a bit of fun and we just relaxed for a little bit.

So I think that's the most important because you're so determined to do well and you just work hard.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

And then you maybe lose a little bit of the fun that you have in you and the ability to switch off.

So it's