Jason Ingber

I think he's a better person than you think he is.

Part of the reason I remember the conversation with Turk is because he got me, bro.

I believed him.

He probably meant it in the moment.

I like to think that he maybe meant it in the moment.

It was just working me.

So anyway, the point is, is that he leaves.

I finished the book.

Well, you could relate to that, I'm sure.

Yeah, sure.

Or you bring yourself to a place.

Yeah.

I mean, I can convince myself of pretty much anything.

So I finished the book.

I sent it to Ross.

Ross, it's funny, too, because I remember Ross.

When I gave him my book, the amount of notes and corrections and you have to change this, you have to write more on this, you have to do that, he just trashed it.

And with Deverelli's book, he literally sent it back and I mean there's maybe a few corrections and he wanted me to correct where I talk about – I talk about the prison and I make it sound like it's a joke.

And he wanted me to make it sound like it was a hellhole.

He wanted me to change that.