Jason Ingber

Like I think that's –

That's a huge responsibility that I think they just kind of shrug off because they figure, ah, this guy's a dirtbag.

He's going away for 15 years.

And you go, well, wait a minute.

If you could get this dropped or argue this or argue that.

You don't think that they think, what does it matter if this guy goes to jail or not?

He's a scumbag.

I've represented him five times.

I don't know that.

You know, that's what, you know.

I think... What is it?

We talked... Did we talk about this last time?

Was it Lusting?

Was it... Remember Lusting, the con man who had the... Was it the 10 rules of the con or something?

Yeah, where he had all these things.

He said, you know, you remain quiet, and then you engage someone in their religion, and then whatever religion they are, you agree with them.

Whatever their stance is, you agree.

If you don't talk about politics, but if it does come up, agree with everything that the person says.

Don't ever talk about, you know, don't ever discuss sex, but if it comes up, agree with it.

and con them into trusting you.