Jason Ingber
๐ค SpeakerAppearances Over Time
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And it really wasn't that big of a deal.
So they go in and just explain.
The problem is Deverelli doesn't want to explain.
Deverelli at the time is a drug addict.
And I mean he's doing blow.
He's a serious drug addict at the time.
And I think that was always downplayed and it was always shifted that he was more of a stoner.
But I mean I talked to Deverelli and when I was like, so you guys get stoned?
He's like, yeah.
But he said, be honest.
He's more of a cuckoo head.
And he was very โ listen, he's very โ he's semi-honest.
At times he would be extremely honest.
Anyway, what happens is โ Semi-honest.
Semi-honest.
Some things he would be very honest and other things he would be very upset about.
Things that I felt like it's pretty clear this is true, but he would be upset about it.
One of the things was he was always upset was that Guy Lawson, the guy that wrote the article in Rolling Stone magazine โ
Guy Lawson had referred to him โ had basically, I guess โ had basically said he was greedy.
At some point he said he was like a greedy psychopath or something, something along those lines.