Jason Kim

And then our Eclipse rocket is a medium lift rocket that we're developing right now.

And it's designed to be a reasonable first stage from the get go.

And that is capable of taking 16 tons to orbit.

And so when you don't need a heavier or super heavy, you can buy just a medium launch vehicle and get several of your Constellation satellites up or

medium to large size payloads up as well responsibly.

So there's a place for each of the small, medium, heavy, and super heavy rockets in the industry.

And there's so much demand.

I mean, I've got old customers of mine from my last job calling me and saying, hey, my satellites are sitting on the ground.

When is your medium lift vehicle going to be ready?

So demand is not the problem.

It's really just increasing, steadily increasing our capacity year to year on our Alpha rocket and then getting to our first launch of our Eclipse rocket and rating that up as well.

It's no earlier than next year.

And everything we learned from our Alpha rocket launches in terms of we use the same carbon composite technology for the tanks, the primary structures.

The same engine technology that we use on our Alpha of our tap-off cycles, we just scaled that larger for our Eclipse rocket as well.

And then, you know, the avionics is something that, you know, we learned from Alpha and we can feed forward into Eclipse as well.

Well, I mentioned that we have, you know, the Alpha rocket and the Eclipse rocket, as well as our lunar landers and our electric spacecraft and SciTech.

All those products are revenue generating.

And so that's unheard of in the rocket business because, you know, typically you have to launch your first launch to generate revenue.

But even on our Eclipse rocket, we're co-developing that with our partner, Northrop Grumman.

And so we're generating revenue working with them.