Jason Meno

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly.

I mean, that's that's it makes sense to me. Yeah.

I mean, that's that's it makes sense to me. Yeah.

Yeah, there's an ocean of data kind of coming in. And this is only 35 people that finished this. So I would love to see this expand out into an actual study with thousands of people and with a control group as well to see how this happens. Because there's all sorts of questions I have about this related to why did their belief change.

Yeah, there's an ocean of data kind of coming in. And this is only 35 people that finished this. So I would love to see this expand out into an actual study with thousands of people and with a control group as well to see how this happens. Because there's all sorts of questions I have about this related to why did their belief change.

Yeah, like number one question for me is... Why would meditating change your belief in a negative thought?

Yeah, like number one question for me is... Why would meditating change your belief in a negative thought?

Because we're seeing it's changing them a little bit. They're not crushing the thoughts by any means. It's definitely not as powerful as team or externalization of voices or actual cognitive techniques. But there's an effect happening here. And whether that effect is purely from like...

Because we're seeing it's changing them a little bit. They're not crushing the thoughts by any means. It's definitely not as powerful as team or externalization of voices or actual cognitive techniques. But there's an effect happening here. And whether that effect is purely from like...

You know, there could be a Hawthorne effect of just the fact that we're regularly showing them their negative thought over and over again and having them like think about it by showing it to them over and over again. That could be having an effect. There could be, you know.

You know, there could be a Hawthorne effect of just the fact that we're regularly showing them their negative thought over and over again and having them like think about it by showing it to them over and over again. That could be having an effect. There could be, you know.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's right.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's right.

I mean, the Hawthorne effect is you know that you're being watched and you're being studied. So you're actively thinking to yourself, oh, should I be thinking about these negative thoughts? Should I be trying to change these negative thought beliefs? So the relationship you have to the data is being influenced just by us studying you and asking you these questions. Yeah.

I mean, the Hawthorne effect is you know that you're being watched and you're being studied. So you're actively thinking to yourself, oh, should I be thinking about these negative thoughts? Should I be trying to change these negative thought beliefs? So the relationship you have to the data is being influenced just by us studying you and asking you these questions. Yeah.

So it's possible there might be some kind of pressure they're putting on themselves knowing that they're studying this. And of course they're familiar with you, David. They're like, they're familiar with team and this podcast. So they likely have this expectation perhaps on themselves. Actually, that's a question I didn't ask.

So it's possible there might be some kind of pressure they're putting on themselves knowing that they're studying this. And of course they're familiar with you, David. They're like, they're familiar with team and this podcast. So they likely have this expectation perhaps on themselves. Actually, that's a question I didn't ask.

How much do you expect, you know, the belief in your thoughts to change? Um, I didn't ask that question, unfortunately.

How much do you expect, you know, the belief in your thoughts to change? Um, I didn't ask that question, unfortunately.