Jason Schreier

And obviously like,

if the game wasn't great, I wouldn't have been into it, but the game was great.

So it was like that one, two punch of like, here's a great headline to the right person.

And then I really liked it.

And I was able to use my platform to reach a whole bunch of people about this game, which the developers have like contribute, like attributed as like a big part of how it was a success.

So, yeah, I mean, I do think that that sort of thing is, is essential and a lot of people unfortunately neglect it.

Just to get to Abimanyu's original question, I don't know if great marketing would have helped 2XKO.

Really, it was the name that killed him.

Yeah, and I mean, it's not my genre.

Yeah, who knows about that.

Maddie, was this a game on your radar?

He was like a journalist, right?

OK, I remember.

Yeah, I remember both of them.

Funny, I didn't know they were involved with this game.

Because she's a great artist.

Do you have a sense of what they did or didn't do marketing-wise?

I mean, that's not a game that Kirk or I would have paid attention to, even if it was.

All right, let's try to get to another question or two.

We've been chatting a while about these two.