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Jason Schreier

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849 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

Blizzard people would argue, well, that's how we make the best games in the world. That's why we've never released a bad game. Activision people would be like, yeah, but we got shareholders and quarters to hit and we have a plan.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

Blizzard people would argue, well, that's how we make the best games in the world. That's why we've never released a bad game. Activision people would be like, yeah, but we got shareholders and quarters to hit and we have a plan.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

Blizzard people would argue, well, that's how we make the best games in the world. That's why we've never released a bad game. Activision people would be like, yeah, but we got shareholders and quarters to hit and we have a plan.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

And if you tell us this game is going to be out on this date and then you fail to deliver, that screws us over because our investors don't like that and our stock might take. So it's really this fundamental divide that comes to a head with Morhaime's resignation. And from there, Activision really starts taking over.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

And if you tell us this game is going to be out on this date and then you fail to deliver, that screws us over because our investors don't like that and our stock might take. So it's really this fundamental divide that comes to a head with Morhaime's resignation. And from there, Activision really starts taking over.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

And if you tell us this game is going to be out on this date and then you fail to deliver, that screws us over because our investors don't like that and our stock might take. So it's really this fundamental divide that comes to a head with Morhaime's resignation. And from there, Activision really starts taking over.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

It's funny you say that because I think an argument at Blizzard all the time that people like Mike Morhaime and his C-suite would make is if we delay a game, one of the reasons we're part of this massive company is so something else can help fill this ladder. You guys can save the quarter this year and then maybe we can save the quarter next year and that sort of thing.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

It's funny you say that because I think an argument at Blizzard all the time that people like Mike Morhaime and his C-suite would make is if we delay a game, one of the reasons we're part of this massive company is so something else can help fill this ladder. You guys can save the quarter this year and then maybe we can save the quarter next year and that sort of thing.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

It's funny you say that because I think an argument at Blizzard all the time that people like Mike Morhaime and his C-suite would make is if we delay a game, one of the reasons we're part of this massive company is so something else can help fill this ladder. You guys can save the quarter this year and then maybe we can save the quarter next year and that sort of thing.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

But that was a difficult argument to make to the Activision bosses because they... had all sorts of charts and numbers and reasons that Blizzard was failing. There was a lot of just talk about Blizzard failing to deliver on fans' expectations, failing to live up to what fans hoped for.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

But that was a difficult argument to make to the Activision bosses because they... had all sorts of charts and numbers and reasons that Blizzard was failing. There was a lot of just talk about Blizzard failing to deliver on fans' expectations, failing to live up to what fans hoped for.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

But that was a difficult argument to make to the Activision bosses because they... had all sorts of charts and numbers and reasons that Blizzard was failing. There was a lot of just talk about Blizzard failing to deliver on fans' expectations, failing to live up to what fans hoped for.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

The biggest point of contention, I think, was over World of Warcraft and how World of Warcraft expansions each took two years to make. And that drove the Activision people crazy. Because Blizzard would say, we would love to speed up the cadence of this. People love expansions. We want to get one going every single year. And they tried all sorts of things to make that happen.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

The biggest point of contention, I think, was over World of Warcraft and how World of Warcraft expansions each took two years to make. And that drove the Activision people crazy. Because Blizzard would say, we would love to speed up the cadence of this. People love expansions. We want to get one going every single year. And they tried all sorts of things to make that happen.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

The biggest point of contention, I think, was over World of Warcraft and how World of Warcraft expansions each took two years to make. And that drove the Activision people crazy. Because Blizzard would say, we would love to speed up the cadence of this. People love expansions. We want to get one going every single year. And they tried all sorts of things to make that happen.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

And Activision people would say, well, why don't you just move everybody to the WoW team? Why don't you put thousands of people on the WoW team? And Blizzard would be like, no, we want people experimenting with new things. We want to give our talent agency in deciding what they want to do. And Activision was like, what? Well, that doesn't make sense. We just have everybody on Call of Duty here.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

And Activision people would say, well, why don't you just move everybody to the WoW team? Why don't you put thousands of people on the WoW team? And Blizzard would be like, no, we want people experimenting with new things. We want to give our talent agency in deciding what they want to do. And Activision was like, what? Well, that doesn't make sense. We just have everybody on Call of Duty here.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

And Activision people would say, well, why don't you just move everybody to the WoW team? Why don't you put thousands of people on the WoW team? And Blizzard would be like, no, we want people experimenting with new things. We want to give our talent agency in deciding what they want to do. And Activision was like, what? Well, that doesn't make sense. We just have everybody on Call of Duty here.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

And that was the point of contention for a very, very long time, because Blizzard was not able to speed up development of WoW expansions. Activision said, throw people at the problem, hire hundreds of people and make that work. Blizzard said, no, that doesn't work for us. And on and on the battle continued. And then the same sort of thing happened with Overwatch.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

And that was the point of contention for a very, very long time, because Blizzard was not able to speed up development of WoW expansions. Activision said, throw people at the problem, hire hundreds of people and make that work. Blizzard said, no, that doesn't work for us. And on and on the battle continued. And then the same sort of thing happened with Overwatch.