Jason Stanley

Brendan Carr is a very effective employer of the the structures.

So so so we're absolutely the the the networks, the the one network that

did call it like it is was MSNBC, MSNOW, which was ridiculed by the left, by many of the left, my fellow leftists as MSNBC liberals, you know, but they actually were calling, you know, Joanne Reid, Mediasan.

You know, these figures were saying we face a fascist movement.

So we have to ask ourselves, why wasn't this taken?

I think networks like fell over themselves to try to provide balance where all that was, you know, and talk about polarization and bemoaning, you know, I mean, yeah.

Look, if you look at the networks, they completely paved the way for Trumpism.

They completely just laid down a golden road for the attack on DEI, for the culture war, for the attack on universities.

The New York Times just had

op-ed after op-ed about leftists on campus and the encampments.

The encampments at Yale were filled with my Jewish students.

And again, the media represented them as anti-Semitic protests, entirely misrepresenting what was happening and just going right into this sort of ideology of the Trump campaign,

hysteria about DEI, hysteria about leftists on campus as if they were the big threat, authoritarian threat, hysteria about anti-war protests.

And so I think we will look back at the media as deeply complicit, as completely

As you said, it was like these extremely clear dog whistles like the Madison Square Garden rally, which was intentionally evocative of the Madison Square Garden pro-Nazi rally in February 1939.

It was intentional.

It was, I believe, intentionally.

I mean, how could it not be?

So all of that was was and then again and again and again, you know, the media just, you know, the media just got, you know, the people who normalized got elevated and the people who are calling it out as it is got shunted aside as hysterics.

And that was presented as maturity.