Jason Stanley

Yeah.

I mean, if you if we we look back at, you know, the media, the media's role, the whole structure we're seeing has a long history, like, you know, mass incarceration, where the United States is has the highest.

has now the second highest incarceration rate in the world behind El Salvador.

But I mean, we have the second highest incarceration rate in the world, eight times the incarceration rate of Canada, six to eight times the incarceration rate of any European country.

That was the media doing its kind of demagoguery about crime throughout the 90s, for example.

Then we have the media and the Iraq war.

Then we had all the post 9-11 stuff.

All of these antecedents are building up.

They built up to the current moment.

We had all this essential lawlessness, lawlessness against our Black American population, lawlessness against our Muslim population.

Now, that has given us lawlessness against anyone who disagrees with the regime.

And the media has simply, you know, the media, I don't know what they've, has it been selling papers?

I think there's a desire to appear sober and rational and to make sense out of what is happening.

But there is no, like, you see this, for example, when they try to rationalize Trump's reasons, like, well, you know, I mean, the fentanyl moving from Canada to the United

madness.

Trump's reasons have no connection to his goals.

He's just saying anything.

And then the media is off trying to take seriously what he's saying.

And, you know, because they're like, oh, it wouldn't be serious unless we, you know, acted like his reasons had some relation to his goals.

So, no, I think the media, I think only extremely recently has the media gotten on board with what is happening.