Jason

That's what I was going to go into with this topic, if you want to get into it.

But you had somewhere you wanted to go.

Uh, the back and forth.

I'm trying to find it now with, uh, with Graham.

Was it, was it earlier today where with, with Messioso, where, um, he was agreeing with the sentiment that I believe it was one of the, the OG coach essentially.

Was it the OG?

Graham was essentially saying, I think people are underestimating.

This was talking about all the upsets that happened at BCG.

Um, how was I possibly going to be talked about this?

because it ties it well because i'm narcissistic and this ties into the point that i was making and i was thinking of tying it into this so i was just assuming that you were on my wavelength no i wasn't on your wavelength no he was kind of mentioning like established from all the upset talk

That people underestimate how the difficulty at times it is for players to bounce between the quality of events of tier one and tier two and like playing at a tournament like an ESL tournament at the tier one level and then dropping down to play like a tier two event and the way the quality difference in the tournament operators can affect performance level.

I think the question that would be asked from a public perspective would be, why the fuck does that make you play worse Counter-Strike?

Well, I mean, I guess the crazy upsets that happened over the past couple days would be, I mean, at this tier one, quote unquote, versus tier two teams would be BC Game Masters G2 losing to Sinners to get eliminated.

They're out of the event.

Passion lost to Tricked, lost to Basement Boys as well.

They got eliminated.

um, heroic eliminated by tricked as well.

So tricks doing some damage, but I guess that's a situation where based off what we've seen, like passion isn't exactly world beaters, but based off what we've seen recently and the names that are in the team, you know, have seen them get beat up by basement boys is kind of shocking.

I agree with that stuff in terms of the... But I mean, I'm not giving them a pass for one roster change.

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