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Jason

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

Right.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

The first thing you would tell me is, hey, Chamath, not all links are made equal.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

Right?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

So for example, if you generate a link for a pharmaceutical drug, Google charges a price per click that's way different than the link that they generate that goes to Amazon to buy toothpaste.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

Right?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

Now, for Amazon, it actually costs the same amount of money to generate that link.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

For Google, sorry, right?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

I think the thing that he needs to understand is he's equating this to energy, but the reality is that in AI models, the thing that we care about is what is that output token?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

What is the revenue that's being generated?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

What is the revenue that's being generated by the output token?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

Ultimately, what he doesn't appreciate is that obviously Google and Facebook and Microsoft and OpenAI and X are not going to be in the business of generating negative revenue output tokens just for the sake of it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

How do you know that?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

My wife got to the end of the internet this week.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

She launched X, put it on voice mode.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

She was stuck in traffic going from our house all the way to San Mateo and back.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

That's like 10 minutes.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

No, it's 25 minutes up, 25 minutes back.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

She said, hey, you know what?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

I ran out of tokens.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Epstein Files Fallout, Nvidia Risks, Burry's Bad Bet, Google's Breakthrough, Tether's Boom

Like it said, you can't use it anymore.