Jason

And now you've got Mondami in New York.

He's going to give free pizza and bagels and bus trips and whatever it is, whatever people want.

He's going to give it to him for free.

You have not been able to.

failed in some ways to turn this around in the country, this entitlement, as many of us have who have been screaming from the rooftops, like, ask not, and you talk about this in the book, ask not what your country can do for you, what can you do for your country?

You bring it up over and over again.

So I think we've failed in the last two decades and socialism is on the rise.

Why is that?

How do we turn it around?

Peggy had a peg leg.

Firecracker.

And it relates directly to your belief, though, in...

Or PhDs later.

Yeah, put it that way.

Well, what's driving... I mean, I understand populism.

I understand trying to buy votes.

But what at the core, in your opinion, drives these individuals who think that not learning to sustain yourself in society and to get all of these freebies...

What's in their mind?

What are they missing about just the basic human condition that we have to work for stuff?

The human operating system is we need challenges.