Jason

I believe that's like at the core of this is mentally ill people hear different things when you say fight like hell, or this person's Hitler, etc.

And they may act on it.

And you can both sides it.

You know, when Trump said, go fight like hell, and they went and beat police officers, you know, at the Capitol.

I don't know if you were there, Rowan, what that was like.

You were there.

And like, it's pretty scary.

And that thing could have gotten out of hand.

And the Oath Keepers and Antifa, these are both radical organizations that will murder people, that will beat police.

They're...

very disturbed individuals in both of these groups.

So I think you can both sides.

And every time we see one of these crazy people, these extreme people, it's really the same profile.

It's white men who are disconnected from reality.

So I don't know how a sane person drives into a church

kills people and lights it on fire like we saw the other day.

Oh, I would agree with that.

If there was religion and family and they weren't shut in and playing video games, I agree.

Let me try to... Anyway, Ro, Chamatha and I are going to continue having this debate.

This is the whole point of the podcast.