Jason

Then you have Claude came out with Cowork this week.

Incredibly powerful.

People are kind of losing their minds over it.

I've been playing with it for the last 40 hours.

Truly impressive.

What's your vision for Microsoft and how knowledge workers will actually put this to use?

Because there seems to be a gap between

you know, playing around with ChatGPT and getting some interesting results and getting business results.

Yeah.

You haven't bought it yet.

So you might clone me working in the HR department or working in the marketing department and have a virtual version of me inside of office.

And that was done by a level of management, product management, that you've eliminated, that Alphabet's eliminated, Meta has started to eliminate in their organization four years ago,

You had the same number of employees you have at Microsoft now, but you put $90 billion onto the top line of the revenue in that time, and you doubled your income during that time.

So how did that happen?

Is that automation of those jobs?

Is it you were a little bit overstaffed?

And I would assume the velocity because you don't have four people communicating and that throughput of ideas, it's just one person and vibe coding.

Exactly.

I assume this is the most challenging moment of your career because...

Microsoft was so dominant, duopoly in some spaces, but you really weren't up against the competition level you're up against now.